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    Ob es das war?

    Hi!

    What's the meaning of "ob es das war?"? Is it something like "I wonder if it's true"?

    Ob es das war? Gerda betrachtete nachdenklich das Foto.

    Vielen Dank!


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    Re: Ob es das war?

    "es" and "das" refer to something mentioned before. So we need more context to answer your question.

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    I agree that context lacks.

    Without context, my initial interpretation would be: I wonder if that was it?

    war = was

    in this case, and not

    wahr = true

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    O.k., we need context in order to understand to what "das" and "es" refer. However, I 'd like to concentrate on the structure/logic of the sentence. Do we have to mean a verb before "Ob" (e.g. "Ich frage mich") or can we understand it f. ex. simply as "was war das?" or otherwise? I 'm very interested to know what natives say on this.
    Last edited by Perseas; 2nd April 2013 at 12:54 PM. Reason: Korrektur

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    I beg your pardon. The context before is a whole paragraph telling about this Gerda who reads the newspaper and finds the picture of a plane crash. I'll copy some lines before the sentence of the query:

    Von einer Sekunde auf die andere war der leuchtende Punkt auf dem Bildschirm nicht mehr zu sehen, die Maschine ins Meer gestürzt, und von den dreiunddreissig griechischen Passagieren fehlte jede Spur.

    Ob es das war? Gerda betrachtete nachdenklich das Foto.

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    The sentence is an ellipsis:

    (Sie fragte sich,) ob es das war.

    It could mean something like: Is it over now? (Are they all dead?)

    Maybe she knew one of the passengers.

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    Oh, dann es ist nicht wie ich gedacht hatte. Could you please use the same sentence in a different context?

    Danke schön.

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    Hi!

    Ob es das war - If it was.

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    Quote Originally Posted by azizz View Post
    Hi!

    Ob es das war - If it was.
    Dann sagt man "ob es das war wahr" anstatt "ob es war wahr" (if it were true)?

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    Quote Originally Posted by azizz View Post

    Ob es das war - If it was.
    Sorry, ich glaube das bringt uns nicht wirklich weiter, da "if it was" alleine im Englischen keinen Sinn ergibt. Ich glaube, du hast den Fragesteller damit eher ein bisschen verwirrt.

    Die Bedeutung ist schon die, die Perpend vorgeschlagen hat: "I wonder if this was it."

    So in this contect it could really be: Is that the end of it? (Interpretation: Are they all dead now?)
    Last edited by Resa Reader; 9th April 2013 at 7:04 PM.

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    Quote Originally Posted by azizz View Post
    Ob es das war - If it was.
    I think that's wrong.


    I agree with perpend (#3):
    Quote Originally Posted by perpend View Post
    Without context, my initial interpretation would be: I wonder if that was it?
    But it's unclear was "that" means.

    Edit: crossed with Resa Reader

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    Quote Originally Posted by _Husby_ View Post
    Oh, dann es ist nicht wie ich gedacht hatte. Could you please use the same sentence in a different context?

    Danke schön.
    Ich glaube, das war's. = I think that's the end of it. / I think that was it.

    You might also say that when your relationship with your partner has come to an end. You would say it with a tone of finality and resignation.

    Here it was used in a political context (shortly before the end of Wulff's presidency):

    http://zettelsraum.blogspot.de/2012/...-das-wars.html

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    Quote Originally Posted by Resa Reader View Post
    ... So in this contect it could really be: Is that the end of it? (Interpretation: Are they all dead now?)
    I agree (almost). But I think it is more positive and expresses some hope or disbelieve:
    Is that the end of it? (Interpretation: Are they really all dead now?) - this is a form of Husby's first hypothesis "I wonder if it's true (that they all are dead - Ergänzung: Hutschi)" - in the now given context, of course.

    War das wirklich schon alles?
    Last edited by Hutschi; 9th April 2013 at 9:42 PM.

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    Re: Ob es das war?

    Why wrong!

    I think you can say "If it was true". Sorry if that's wrong, i just wanted to help you.

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