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    многие из наших предков

    I've been reading an old thread about this question (http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=2230706) but I can't grasp the answer for my problem in that thread. I wrote the sentence

    много из наших предков должно было эмигрировать

    but my teacher corrected it:

    многие из наших предков должны былы эмигрировать

    Is it because it is a subject that you need to use the "long-form adjective"? Does a construction such as "много из наших предков" exist? In which cases can it be used?

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    Re: многие из наших предков

    In the sentence многие из наших предков должны были эмигрировать the subject is многие and it is a noun rather than an adjective.

    Does a construction such as "много из наших предков" exist? - no, it does not. I suppose you can say много наших предков должнo былo эмигрировать, but is it more colloquial.

    Just a small coorrection (it mostly has to do with style). I would replace должны были with вынуждены были, otherwise it sounds a bit strange, like they had some kind of duty to emigrate.

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    Re: многие из наших предков

    Thanks for the answer rusita preciosa

    Quote Originally Posted by rusita preciosa View Post

    Does a construction such as "много из наших предков" exist? - no, it does not. I suppose you can say много наших предков должнo былo эмигрировать, but is it more colloquial.
    Is there a "logical grammar explanation" for this? I mean is многие in многие из наших предков a noun/pronoun and много in много наших предков an adjective?


    and thanks for the tip!

    Quote Originally Posted by rusita preciosa View Post


    Just a small coorrection (it mostly has to do with style). I would replace должны были with вынуждены были, otherwise it sounds a bit strange, like they had some kind of duty to emigrate.

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    Re: многие из наших предков

    Многие vs. много
    Многие = значительная часть, (big part of smth, many of)
    многие из (+ genitive case) Многие из людей

    Note that without "ИЗ" многие = Pronoun and you need another case:
    многие (+ nom. case) Многие люди Многие - Кто? Что?

    Mного = большое количество. ( big quantity, many) Adverb Много - Сколько?
    много (+ genitive case)

    A bit more about много/многие
    If you have a company of three people it is not many in quantity (не МНОГО), but if you are familiar wth two of them, one can say that МНОГИЕ меня знают (many of them).
    В России живёт много людей, многие из них - русские.
    Многие из иностранцев думают, что в России много медведей.
    Last edited by Trasher; 8th May 2013 at 11:35 AM.

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    Re: многие из наших предков

    But what's the difference between много людей and Многие люди?


    I understand that when you have a construction with
    из you always have to use многие and много is not acceptable.
    Actually, in terms of grammar, I would say that
    многие in многие из них is a pronoun but it seems that since the Russian point of view it is an adjective with a non-overt head of the phrase. This explanation, some way, helps to understand why многие is declined as an adjective. To try to make a parallelism could we consider it as follows? I know that sometimes translations don't help, but they alwasys help me understanding.

    много наших предков : Many ancestors of ours
    многие из наших предков: A lot of our ancestors



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