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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by pizzi View Post
    Anche se il mio è un nickname, preferirei avere altri vicini...
    Ciao

    Per compensazione ti offro alcuni dei miei vecchi amici: Galilei, Torricelli, Paganini, Alighieri, Bounarroti, Pavarotti.

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by francisgranada View Post
    Ciao

    Per compensazione ti offro alcuni dei miei vecchi amici: Galilei, Torricelli, Paganini, Alighieri, Bounarroti, Pavarotti.
    Galilei sounds like a patronymic formed from Galileo (Galileo, Galileo's son).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jamin View Post
    Galilei sounds like a patronymic formed from Galileo (Galileo, Galileo's son).
    Yes, you are right.

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    I think we could speak also about the rare surnames or about surnames with interesting meaning. E.g.:

    Italian: Bevilacqua [Drink the water]
    Italian: Mezzasalma [Half cadaver]

    Hungarian: Bornemisza [Drinks not wine]
    Hungarian: Kisnagyerős [Little big strong]

    Czech: Jebavý [F***er]

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by francisgranada View Post
    Yes, you are right.

    ***************************
    I think we could speak also about the rare surnames or about surnames with interesting meaning. E.g.:

    Italian: Bevilacqua [Drink the water]
    Italian: Mezzasalma [Half cadaver]

    Hungarian: Bornemisza [Drinks not wine]
    Hungarian: Kisnagyerős [Little big strong]

    Czech: Jebavý [F***er]
    Ciao Francis, ti devo contraddire, Mezzasalma non è half cadaver, la salma è una unità di misura dei terreni.

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by infinite sadness View Post
    Ciao Francis, ti devo contraddire, Mezzasalma non è half cadaver, la salma è una unità di misura dei terreni.
    Ciao Infinite, allora è probabile che in questo caso si tratti di quello che dici tu, ma lo stesso è un cognome interessante.

    Ma volendo si può tradurre anche con cadavere, no?

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Non credo proprio, essendo un cognome tipicamente siciliano, e qui il significato di salma è univoco e significa circa 40.000 metri quadri di terreno agricolo.
    Certo, in italiano significa cadavere, ma non in siciliano.

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by infinite sadness View Post
    Non credo proprio, essendo un cognome tipicamente siciliano, e qui il significato di salma è univoco e significa circa 40.000 metri quadri di terreno agricolo
    Questo non sapevo. Allora la traduzione inglese del cognome Mezzasalma sarebbe "Twenty thousend square meters" . Non è meno interessante...

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jamin View Post
    Wojciechowski patronymic, Wojciech’s son
    And what does Wojciech mean?
    "A Zapatista ain't a shoemaker."

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Ukrainian surnames frequently have such ends as:
    -ко: Шевченко (-ko: Shevchenko)
    -ук: Кравчук (-uk: Kravchuk)
    -ик: Олійник(-yk: Oliynyk)
    -ак: Грицак (-ak: Hrytsak)
    -ич: Станкевич(-ych: Stankevych)
    -ин: Хомин (-yn: Khomyn)
    -ишин: Петришин(-yshyn: Petryshyn)
    -ів: Антонів(-iv: Antoniv)
    -кий/-ка: Білецький/Білецька (-kyy/-ka: Biletskyy (he)/Biletska (she))

    The most spread "colourful" surnames are Чорний/Чорна (he/she Black) and Білий/Біла (he/she White).

    Ukrainian names are also surnames. For examlpe, Ольга Семен (Olha Semen): Ольга - a girl's name, Семен is her surname, but Семен is usually male name.
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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Continuation:

    21. Doležal
    22. Zeman (a noble title)
    23. Kolář (wheeler)
    24. Krejčí (tailor)
    25. Navrátil (navrátit se = to return)
    26. Čermák
    27. Urban
    28. Vaněk
    29. Blažek (blaho = well-being)
    30. Kříž (cross)
    31. Kratochvíl (krátká chvíle = short moment)
    32. Kovář (smith)
    33. Bartoš
    34. Kopecký (kopec = hill)
    35. Vlček (small wolf)
    36. Polák (Pole)
    37. Musil (muset = must)
    38. Šimek
    39. Konečný (konec = end)
    40. Malý (small)
    41. Čech (Czech)
    42. Kadlec
    43. Štěpánek (little Stephan)
    44. Holub (pigeon)
    45. Staněk
    46. Dostál (dostat = to get)
    47. Soukup
    48. Šťastný (happy)
    49. Mareš
    50. Moravec (Morava = Moravia)
    51. Sýkora (tit (bird))
    52. Tichý (silent)
    53. Valenta
    54. Vávra
    55. Matoušek
    56. Říha
    57. Bláha
    58. Ševčík (švec = shoemaker)
    59. Bureš
    60. Hruška (pear)
    61. Pavlík (little Paul)
    62. Dušek
    63. Mašek
    64. Hrubý (rough)
    65. Havlíček
    66. Janda
    67. Mach
    68. Liška (fox)
    69. Beran (ram)
    70. Bednář (cooper)

    The surnames are just so old, that for non-linguists their origin is mostly obscure.
    Last edited by ilocas2; 22nd January 2011 at 2:44 AM.

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by tyhryk View Post
    Ukrainian surnames frequently have such ends as:
    -ко (-ko: Shevchenko)
    -ук (-uk: Kravchuk)
    -ик (-yk: Oliynyk)
    -ич (-ych: Stankevych)
    -ин (-yn: Khomyn)
    -ишин (-yshyn: Petryshyn)
    -ів (-iv: Antoniv)
    -кий/-ка (-kyy/-ka: Biletskyy (he)/Biletska (she))

    The most spread "colourful" surnames are Чорний/Чорна (he/she Black) and Білий/Біла (he/she White).

    Ukrainian names are also surnames. For examlpe, Ольга Семен (Olha Semen): Ольга - a girl's name, Семен is her surname, but Семен is usually male name.
    All of these are patronymics, except -кий/-ка.

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartocus123 View Post
    And what does Wojciech mean?
    This is an old name consisting of elements woj (warrior) and ciech (joy).
    This is a traditional interpretation though. Ciech may also have another meaning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jamin View Post
    All of these are patronymics, except -кий/-ка.
    No, patronymic surnames are Хомин (from male name Хома), Антонів (from male name Антон), Петришин (from male name Петро). I also added surname with the end -ак (-ak), Грицак, and this surname is patronymic too (from male name Гриць or Григорій).
    Шевченко - from Швець (shoemaker)
    Кравчук - from Кравець (tailor)
    Олійник means oiler
    Станкевич means man working at machine factory
    Білецький/Білецька - from Білий/Біла (White)

    In Ukraine "profession's" surnames are very spread and are considered as Ukrainian. Кравець, Швець, Олійник, Ткач (weaver), Скляр (glaizer), Пастух (shepherd), Мельник (miller), Гонтар (man who works with gaunt), Бондар (hooper), Різник (butcher), Колесник (man who creates wheels), Кухар (cook), Чабан (shepherd), Коваль (smith), Чумак (chumaks were only in Ukraine, in the modern sense there were merchants which went to sell Ukrainian salt abroad), Дяк (cantor), Кобзар (kobzars were also only in Ukraine, people played on kobza, Ukrainian musical instrument), Співак (singer), Скрипник (violinist), Цимбалюк (man played on tsymbal, Ukrainian musical tool).

    Ukrainians have "food's" surnames such as Буряк (beet), Гарбуз (pumpkin), Сало (fat), Вареник (Ukrainian food symbol ))), and "animal's" surnames: Горобець (sparrow), Заєць (rebbit), Котик (small cat), Коник (small horse), Орел (eagle).
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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by tyhryk View Post
    No, patronymic surnames are Хомин (
    Кравчук - from Кравець (tailor)
    Кравчук was once a taylor's son. This is a kind of patronymic too. You don't have to treat the patronymic term so narrowly as to equal it with 'отчество' in official names. Also the other endings can (or could be once) used to produce patronymics from various first names, professions, nicknames, and so on.

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jamin View Post
    Кравчук was once a taylor's son. This is a kind of patronymic too.
    Well, surnames Кравчук, Кравців, Кравченко are derivative words from surname Кравець which means tailor. And if someone has one of such surnames it means that the first man in his human family (many many years ago) was a tailor.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jamin View Post
    'отчество'
    I don't understand. Is it Ukrainian word?

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinite sadness View Post
    Penso che Ferraresi, Milanesi deriva dal fatto di nominare un gruppo di persone usando il plurale. Spesso questi cognomi si trovano maggiormente in luoghi diversi dalla località che rappresentano, perché era facile individuare un forsestiero o un gruppo di forestieri con il nome della località di origine, anziché scervellarsi per inventare un nuovo appellativo.
    Così, il cognome "Siciliano" lo trovi molto di più fuori dalla sicilia che in sicilia.
    Vero. A Parma ci sono i Reggiani, a Reggio i Parmigiani e i Parmiggiani. Poi è chiaro che ora, con le migrazioni interne, le carte si mescolino...
    Në e di, ma thuaj! Gli intolleranti possono rendermi intollerante...

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by tyhryk View Post
    Well, surnames Кравчук, Кравців, Кравченко are derivative words from surname Кравець which means tailor. And if someone has one of such surnames it means that the first man in his human family (many many years ago) was a tailor.
    Yes, and and the first one named Кравчук was his son.

    Quote Originally Posted by tyhryk View Post
    I don't understand. Is it Ukrainian word?
    No, Russian, I do not know the Ukrainian word for patronymic. Are you offended?

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jamin View Post
    No, Russian, I do not know the Ukrainian word for patronymic.
    In Ukrainian: по-батькові

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Jamin View Post
    Yes, and and the first one named Кравчук was his son.
    O'k. Let it be so like You wrote.

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Very interesting topic.
    Here are the most frequent Serbian surnames (most of them originate from patronyms):
    - Petrović* - son of Petar (Peter)
    - Popović* - son of the priest
    - Nikolić - son of Nikola (Nicholas)
    - Jovanović - son of Jovan (John)
    - Lukić - son of Luka (Luke)
    - Gavrilović - son of Gavrilo (Gabriel)
    - Filipović - son of Filip (Philip)
    - Đorđević - son of Đorđe (George)
    - Janković - son of Janko (Ian)
    - Marković - son of Marko (Mark)
    - Mihajlović - son of Mihajlo (Michael)
    - Milošević - son of Miloš
    - Pavlović - son of Pavle (Paul)...

    *very frequent in Montenegro as well.
    Beskrajni plavi krug i u njemu zvezda.

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    Re: Most frequent surnames

    Most frequent surnames in Chile (Top 5):

    1- González:
    Originated in Spain meaning Gonzalo's son.

    2- Muñoz:
    There are a lot of theories about its origin. One of them relates it with the Roman consul Lucio Munio, meaning Munio's son. This is my first surname!!!

    3- Rojas:
    There are at lest two theories about its origin. Researches consider it as a Spanish place name. Others sources relate its origin with the first Jews inmigrants (descendants of the Hebrew dinasty called House of David) in Spain.

    4- Díaz:
    Diago's son (Diago is a variant of Diego).

    5- Pérez:
    Its origin is, probably, Aragonese or Catalan (Spain) meaning Pere's son (Pere = Pedro = Peter).

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