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Thread: do you hear that ㅃ consonant?

  1. #1
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    do you hear that ㅃ consonant?

    Here's a short snippet of a conversation. There are two sounds that out of all sincerity I could not make out at all

    http://www16.zippyshare.com/v/3375335/file.html

    First is the 바 sound for 바봅니까.. the second one is that 뻔 sound 뻔히 알면서 (which sounds like 언야 면서 to my ears)

    I wonder if there's something wrong with my own hearing, with the quality of the recording or in fact all of you native ears actually detect that?

    Normally I do not have too much trouble with ㅃ, ㄲ, ㅆ but this one I have to say that the many times I replay it I still could not be sure it is there.

    PS with prior approval of audio posting from Rallino
    Last edited by vientito; 1st September 2012 at 7:28 PM.

  2. #2
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    Re: do you hear that ㅃ consonant?

    He says 뻔히 알면서 가게 just like most Koreans do.

  3. #3
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    Re: do you hear that ㅃ consonant?

    It has a lot to do with being a native speaker.
    We already know everything so even if someone slurs a word,
    it registers with us.

    Americans slur a lot when they speak English
    but if you're a native English speaker, most of the time
    you know what they say.

  4. #4
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    Re: do you hear that ㅃ consonant?

    미치겠다 야 상두, 너 이리와.

    제가 바봅니까?(제가 바보입니까?) 가면 때릴 거 뻔히 알면서 가게?


    As like all languages, native speakers know the range of the variation of the sound, which means if one says "뻐니 아며서 가게"(it is a wrong pronunciation, and we don't actually say like this) but we can understand it as "뻔히 알면서 가게", because we can't make another combination with that sound.
    Last edited by Superhero1; 8th September 2012 at 6:22 PM.

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