Joca and badgrammar:
The curious thing, then, would be how these "facts" of "hard-wiring" in us are to be established? How can we, as it were, disconnect us from the ideological surrounding in which we exist, to determine what lies "underneath" or "behind" what we do and think and say? How are we to make sense of the fact that ideals change? Is it that fertility changes at the same time? And what says that "big boobs" or "hourglass shape" or some other stereotype of "beauty" make women more fertile?? Big breasts can be difficult to live with, so go figure. Neither does a big cock, the fancy fantasy of all men, if some sources are to be taken seriously, make a man more fertile. (Though, curiously, it is usually women's fertility that comes up for discussion. Wonder why ) And what does fertility have to do with it all? Not even the most hardcore sociobiologist can make a coherent, convincing claim for the importance of fertility *as such* in biological evolution.
I don't deny that we are physical beings, and it is NOT in my ideal vision of society and human life, that we "appreciate each other for non-physical traits alone". "I love you for your soul and mind, not your body", certainly doesn't sound flattering to me, and even less is it an expression of love (what it does express, I would rather not even think about). What I am saying is instead, that love SEES beauty, and I cannot stress this enough. Can you genuinly say you love a person, yet at the same time think of him or her as ugly? I simply think it is impossible, unless that love in question is utterly weird and non-loving. The physical dimension of our lives is obviously important, we are bodies, in a sense of saying it, as the beings we are we relate to others and their and our bodies are always involved. That is true for any age.
And no, I am not one of those people you seem to want to refer to, "young people not yet wise enough to see other things than certain golden ratios" and other nonsensicalities.
I may sound harsh, and I honestly apologise, but I am genuinly offended, saddened and upset that people take to heart such twisted ideas of seeing others.