I have seen quite a few threads where people give number of hits reported by Google as an indication of the relative frequency of usage. Unfortunately, these numbers are invariably an inaccurate representation of the actual number of cases in the database. For example, at the time of this writing, Google reports: Results 1 - 10 of about 55,200,000 for "hasta el punto de que tenga". (0.39 seconds) Actual number of cases in the database: 34 Results 61 - 70 of about 243 for "hasta el punto de que tiene". (0.13 seconds) Actual number of cases in the database: 165 Sometimes the result is off by a little, other times by a huge margin. There are other databases where the number of cases in the database is reported accurately, and those results can be useful. However, given unreliability of Google in producing such estimates, I propose that the rules of WR be amended to discourage listing number of hits reported by Google as any indication (much less a "proof") of usage.