I have been asking about this at the All Languages forum, but have not got very clear answers with regard to Tagalog. The point is: I am getting these translations from my informant but I do not get an answer to the question: is the bit/bin element some kind of root here? EXTra: is the idea of carrying, lit. or fig., somehow implied in all those words? Do they have other meanings/uses, not linked with carrying?