etc, ie, eg, et al

Discussion in 'English Only' started by moonglow, Mar 13, 2013.

  1. moonglow

    moonglow Banned

    English – America
    Styles and practices vary, but can we eliminate full stops in 'ie', 'eg', 'etc' and 'et al' in formal writing?

    He brought apples, oranges, etc to the picnic.

    Adhere to that one requirement, ie no gum chewing in class.

    I will bring apples, oranges, etc

    In attendance will be John Doe, Jane Doe et al

    Harry, Joe et al will be there.
    (Comma after 'Joe'?)

  2. PaulQ

    PaulQ Senior Member

    English - England
    I would always include them, particularly in formal writing - here's a good reason from another site
    The site, goes on to give other examples.

    Another reason is that by including them, you will upset nobody. However, by omitting them, you may upset the person whose support you want or need.
  3. Egmont Senior Member

    Massachusetts, U.S.
    English - U.S.
    In American English, they are required. In some of your examples, they would be required at the end of a sentence even if that sentence did not end with an abbreviation.

    However, despite what you have as your native language, your post seems to use British style in quotation marks, placement of punctuation, and the term "full stop" for what Americans would call a period. Do you want an answer for British English?

    Added in edit: Cross-posted with the BE answer!
  4. moonglow

    moonglow Banned

    English – America
    Yes, absolutely.
  5. moonglow

    moonglow Banned

    English – America
    Would you exclude the comma, then, after these Latin abbreviations in BrE?

    Thank you.
  6. entangledbank

    entangledbank Senior Member

    English - South-East England
    Depends what you count as formal writing. Omitting them is common in journals of the level of New Scientist and The Economist. That's not what I would call formal, and I'd personally keep the full stop(s) in but not follow them by an unnecessary comma.
  7. moonglow

    moonglow Banned

    English – America
    Thank you. Grateful for everybody's help!

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