As far as I know, Gothic is originally an architecture style related with Goth people. But today there is a subculture among the youth named goth aka: gothic. As far as I know, that is somehow related with sadness, unhappiness. In Turkic we have a word "gada" meaning "unhappiness, sadness, grief, sorrow, gloominess, anxiety" and there was work of famous Sumerologist Benna Landsberger regarding the ethnic identity of Gutians. They were regarded as a Turkic people named Kut~Gut. A. von Gabain and László Rásony also supported this work. Gut ~ Kut also for some reason means the opposite of unhappy, sad. It has meanings like "vigorous, wild, enthusiastic". There is also this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutian_people What I wonder is that if there is a link between Goths and Gutians and whether there is any work regarding this. Apart from my other curiosities, how did the word Goth got its "sad, unhappy" meaning?