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  1. Whodunit

    Whodunit Senior Member

    กรุงเทพมหานคร
    Deutschland ~ Deutsch/Sächsisch
    I'd like to know how the grade system works in your country in schools. I think I don't have to explain it further after the following table:

    Germany:
    1 - sehr gut (very good)
    2 - gut (good)
    3 - befriedigend (satisfactory)
    4 - ausreichend (enough)
    5 - mangelhaft (poor)
    6 - ungenügend (not enough)

    America/GB:
    A - excellent
    B - good
    C - satisfactory
    D - sufficient
    E - poor
    F - unsatisfactory

    France:
    20 sur 20 (A) - très bien
    ?? sur 20 (B) - bien
    ?? sur 20 (C) - assez bien
    ?? sur 20 (D) - passable
    ?? sur 20 (E) - dessous de la moyenne (?)
    0 sur 20 (F) - insuffisant (?)

    Thanks for corrections and supplementations. :)
     
  2. Fernando Senior Member

    Madrid
    Spain, Spanish
    The epoch when I was in school (so-called Middle Ages):

    0-3: Muy deficiente = Very bad. Not normally used (F)
    3-5: Insuficiente = Insufficient (E)
    5-6: Suficiente = Sufficient (D)
    6-7: Bien = Fair (C)
    7-9: Notable = Remarkable (B)
    9-10: Sobresaliente = Excellent (A)
     
  3. Jana337

    Jana337 Senior Member

    čeština
    Czech Republic:

    1 - výborně - excellent
    2 - chvalitebně - very good
    3 - dobře - good
    4 - dostatečně - sufficient
    5 - nedostatečně - insufficient

    Universities:
    1 - výborně - excellent
    2 - chvalitebně - very good
    3 - dobře - good
    4 - nedostatečně - insufficient

    Jana
     
  4. JLanguage Senior Member

    Georgia, US
    USA: American English, Learning Hebrew and Spanish
    A: Excellent
    B - B+: Good
    B-: Decent
    C: Acceptable
    D: Barely sufficient
    F: Failing

    Numbers:
    A: 90-100+
    B - B+ : 85-89
    B-: 80-84
    C: 75-79
    D: 70-74
    F: <70

    Whether or not B or C is satisfactory depends on both the school and the person, but it is universal that an F is failing and A is exemplary, while D is very poor.
     
  5. amikama

    amikama sordomodo

    ישראל
    עברית
    In Israel there are two scales, 0-10 (usually small quizes, surprise quizes etc.) and 0-100 (usually exams).

    It's ten years since I've graduated high school, but if my memory serves me right it goes like this:
    10 or 95-100 = מצוין (execllent)
    9 or 85-94 = טוב מאוד (very good)
    8 or 75-84 = טוב (good)
    7 or 65-74 = כמעט טוב (almost good)
    6 or 55-64 = מספיק (sufficient)
    5 or 45-54 = מספיק בקושי (hardly sufficient)
    <4 or <44 = בלתי מספיק/נכשל (insufficient/failed)
     
  6. alc112

    alc112 Senior Member

    Concordia, Entre Ríos
    Argentina Spanish
    I like this topic:

    10: Sobresaliente
    9: Distingudo
    8 y 7: Muy Bueno
    6: bueno
    5 y 4: Regular
    3, 2 y 1: Insuficiente
     
  7. Whodunit

    Whodunit Senior Member

    กรุงเทพมหานคร
    Deutschland ~ Deutsch/Sächsisch
    So do I. Thank you all very much for your answeres and corrections. :)

    However I'd like to know the Russian one again. I just remember it's like the German one, just vice versa.
     
  8. JLanguage Senior Member

    Georgia, US
    USA: American English, Learning Hebrew and Spanish
    Wow, that's a lenient system, here anything less than a seventy is failing.
     
  9. panjandrum

    panjandrum PongoMod

    Belfast, Ireland
    English-Ireland (top end)
    It's not necessarily lenient. It could be just as difficult to score 40 in one scheme as to score 70 in another. Logically, 50% should be average. Grade creep is a big problem:p
     
  10. timpeac

    timpeac Senior Member

    England
    English (England)
    That's interesting. At Czech university you can only be good or insufficient then, not average. I think in a way I like that since you know where you are!:)

    At British university you have

    1st* "starred first" - 80+% -outstanding
    1st - 70-80% excellent
    2-1 - "two-one" - 60-70% - good
    2-2 "two-two" - 50-60% - fair
    3rd bare pass - 40-50%
    fail - <40%

    Again the percentages don't mean very much. For example, if you wrote something that was absolutely fantastic that even your tutor was in awe of it might get 85%. At least that is how it worked for arts subjects at my university. I don't know how it worked for subjects such as maths where there are right or wrong answers and so you could theoretically get 100% I suppose.
     
  11. lsp

    lsp Senior Member

    NY
    US, English
    The US of A has gone in a variety of directions, so it's hard to generalize as a nation. However, where ABCDF is used, "D" is insufficient, borderline failure.

    p.s. (The US of A have??? :p)
     
  12. Mita

    Mita Senior Member

    Chile
    Chile - Español
    Hi!
    In Chile:
    7,0: excellent
    6,0 to 6,9: good
    5,0 to 5,9: so-so
    4,0 to 4,9: barely sufficient
    1,0 to 3,0: insufficient
    In Chile our grades are "blue" or "red". The red ones are very bad... if you have a red average grade in three subjects, you have to repeat.

    Don't you have "E"??:confused:
     
  13. elroy

    elroy Motley mod

    Urbana-Champaign, IL
    Am. English, Pal. Arabic (See profile)
    I want to second lsp on the fact that it's hard to generalize the US grading system.

    When I was growing up, this was the system my American school used:

    A: 100-93 (excellent)
    B: 92-85 (above average)
    C: 84-77 (average)
    D: 76-70 (below average)
    F: 69-0 (failing)

    Realizing that it was perhaps too strict (espeically since the passing grade at local Palestinian schools was 50, so that our failing 69 was, in their words, "19 points above average"), they later modified the system, albeit very slightly:

    A: 100-90 (excellent)
    B: 89-80 (above average)
    C: 79-70 (average)
    D: 69-65 (below average)
    U: 64-0 (unsatisfactory)

    The changed the F to U because they felt "unsatisfactory" sounded more pleasant than "failing." Considerate, isn't it? :p

    Of course, the divisions get more specific with the well-known +'s and -'s, but the distinctions among those are even more complicated and varied.

    Nevertheless, US grading systems are all alike in that there is no "E," at least as far as I know. I think the "E" is more of a British thing.

    As for the Palestinian system, I'm not entirely sure, but from what I remember it is very much like the Israeli system Amikama described: scale of 0-10 for short quizzes and such; scale of 0-100 for larger tests and exams; 5 and 50 passing grades, respectively.

    In college and university, the GPA (Grade Point Average) system is used throughout most of the United States - but again, with slight differences here and there. Generally, 4.00 GPA points is the highest you can get; anything above 3.00 is pretty good; below 3.00 and you start risking not looking so hot on your graduate school applications.

    This is the system my university (Colgate University) uses:

    4.33 - A+
    4.00 - A
    3.67 - A-
    3.33 - B+
    3.00 - B
    2.67 - B-
    2.33 - C+
    2.00 - C
    1.67 - D+
    1.33 - D
    1.00 - D-
    0.00 - F

    A 4.33 (A+) is virtually impossible to get so for intents and purposes a 4.00 is the highest you can get. If your cumulative GPA at the end of your collegiate career is a 3.3 or above, you graduate cum laude; if it's 3.5 or above you graduate magna cum laude; 3.8 or above and you graudate summa cum laude.
     
  14. elroy

    elroy Motley mod

    Urbana-Champaign, IL
    Am. English, Pal. Arabic (See profile)
    Nope. Not in the US.
     
  15. Aupick

    Aupick Senior Member

    Strasbourg, France
    UK, English
    France:
    16/20 = très bien (very good)
    14/20 = bien (good)
    12/20 = assez bien (quite good)

    10/20 is the cut off for pass/fail, but is also called the 'moyenne' (average) which shows you how pessimistic the French system is. They used to say that 20 was for the good Lord and 19 for his angels, such was the difficulty of obtaining these grades, but they're just about within reach these days. Having said that, the higher up in the education system you go, the lower the scores are (the greater the expectations...). And averages of 7 or 8 become quite common.
     
  16. Jana337

    Jana337 Senior Member

    čeština
    The most elaborate grading scale I have experienced is the Danish one:
    13: Is given for exceptionally independent and excellent performance

    11: Is given for independent and excellent performance

    10: Is given for excellent but not particularly independent performance

    9: Is given for good performance, a little above average

    8: Is given for average performance

    7: Is given for mediocre performance, slightly below average

    6: Is given for just acceptable performance (minimum pass mark)

    5: Is given for hesitant and not satisfactory performance

    03: Is given for very hesitant, very insufficient and unsatisfactory performance

    00: Is given for completely unacceptable performance

    The jump from 13 to 11 emphasises the fact that 13 is only to be given in exceptional cases. It should therefore not necessarily be compared to the top mark in other systems.

    Jana
     
  17. joensuu Junior Member

    Nantes / Joensuu
    France - french
    France:
    20 sur 20 - Excellent
    18 sur 20 - très bien
    16 sur 20 - bien
    14 sur 20 - assez bien
    12 sur 20 - passable
    <10 sur 20 - dessous de la moyenne (?)
    8 sur 20 - insuffisant (?)

    In France, i never see the letters used as marks after primary school.
     
  18. alc112

    alc112 Senior Member

    Concordia, Entre Ríos
    Argentina Spanish
    our grades here in Argentina also use red color for the worst grades. I mean 1, 2 and 3. For the others, the people who put them use blue or black.
    Saludos
     
  19. Cairenn

    Cairenn Senior Member

    Zagreb, Croatia
    Croatian/Croatia
    in Croatia:

    5 = ODLIČAN [excellent]
    4 = VRLO DOBAR [very good]
    3 = DOBAR [good]
    2 = DOVOLJAN [acceptable]
    1 = NEDOVOLJAN [failing]
     
  20. LadyBlakeney

    LadyBlakeney Senior Member

    Madrid
    Spain
    Hello everybody,

    Although Fernando already posted the Spanish grade system and it is crystal clear, I'd like to add a couple of things you may find curious:

    Our marks range from 0 to 10. To barely pass, you need to get a 5, anything below that means you need to repeat the course or resit the exam, usually in September, before the start of the next course.

    In practically every subject (arts or science) you can get a 10 and:

    - when your average grades for the last course in high school are close to 10, you may get a "matrícula de honor" (I don't know how to say it in English). It is a sort of academic honour, and the pragmatic part of it is that, should you decide to go to College, you don't have to pay the tuition for the first year (that is, in public universities).

    - when you get a 10 in College for any subject, you also get a "matrícula de honor" and you get one subject for free in you next course's tuition.
     
  21. Philippa

    Philippa Senior Member

    Reading
    Britain - English
    Hi Tim! I've never heard of starred firsts!! At my Uni it was 1st, 2.1, 2.2, 3rd, Pass degree (i.e. not honours) and Fail. I agree that the percentages don't mean much. Our finals papers were impossible (I did well and all my marks were around 50%)

    Schools here give a variety of letter and number marks. Schools can have their own system - sometimes it includes separate marks for effort and achievement. I put different combinations of ticks, pluses and minuses in my mark book for me to refer to and write comments for the pupils.

    In A level exams (17 and 18 year olds) there are pass grades from A (best) to E (worst). In GCSE exams (16 year olds) there are pass grades from A (best) to G (worst) and A* (even better than best!), but A* to C are often considered passes and the other grades fails.

    Saludos
    Philippa :)
     
  22. Sev

    Sev Senior Member

    Béziers, France
    France, french.
    There is a difference here. Well it depends whether you are talking generally or if you consider the "Bac" (A-level).
    Generally joensuu might be right, event if I consider him/her being a little bit severe :p
    As for the bac, Aupick is right (and 10/20 is "passable")
     
  23. Phryne

    Phryne Senior Member

    New York City
    Argieland--Esp/Eng
    Hi Elroy!

    In my University (American) if you get an A+ you still get a 4.00 GPA. :mad: Some teachers give you an A+ and some don't even bother. What's the difference anyway? :(
    I agree with this. Although when I went to college in Argentina a 4 (was and still) is a passing grade. You need over 60% of your test/class and sometimes even 70% just to get a 4. Weird, huh...

    In my highschool, though, I had to pass with a 6, or 60%. And the system was something like this:
    10: Sobresaliente/outstanding ==>100%
    9: Distinguido/excellent ==>90%
    8: Muy Bueno/very good ==>80%
    7: bueno/good==>70%
    6: regular/sufficient==>60%
    5 y 4: insuficiente/insufficient==>50,40%
    3, 2 y 1: aplazado/you did horribly, worse than bad :eek:

    saludos :)
     
  24. Aupick

    Aupick Senior Member

    Strasbourg, France
    UK, English
    Yeah, I had the bac in mind, as expressed here.
     
  25. alc112

    alc112 Senior Member

    Concordia, Entre Ríos
    Argentina Spanish
    I copied from my Report:D I have in front of me.
    four 10s, two 9s, thrre 8s, one 7 and one 6.:D
    Saludos
     
  26. joensuu Junior Member

    Nantes / Joensuu
    France - french
    Not severe :p it's the main comments we could have in high school and after.. But true for the BAC ...forgot it! It's not so far away but put away from my minds bad experiences :rolleyes:
     
  27. Silvia B

    Silvia B Senior Member

    Italy - Italian
    And now the italian one!!

    0-4 gravemente insufficiente

    Note: sometimes it happens that someone get a 1-2-3 or even a 0 (one of my schoolmate got a 0+ once! hahah!) Depends on teacher's point of view.
    Many teachers never go under 4, which is anyway, really bad.

    5 insufficiente

    6 sufficiente

    7 discreto

    8 buono

    9 distinto

    10 ottimo

    Anyway, the "number marks" are used in high school.
    Inferior grade of school use just "words" (insufficiente-suff-buono etc)

    In exams (high school exams) the marks are from 60 to 100. If you get 60 points you pass your exams. To reach the score you have to sum all the scores you had in the exams (3 written - 1 oral)

    At university the marks go from 18 to 30.
    (18 is sufficient and 30 is excellent)

    Of course if you get a mark under 60 (in high school exams) or 18 (in university's exams) you fail =(

    Bye!
     
  28. Whodunit

    Whodunit Senior Member

    กรุงเทพมหานคร
    Deutschland ~ Deutsch/Sächsisch
    Same here! The worst grade is called "ungenügend" (not eough), but if someone gets a 6 (failing), it's just bad. I also often see teacher use 6+ (a little bit better than failed :D). The most astounding grade I've ever seen was given by a teacher in elementary school: 6- (worse than failed). :eek:

    Great thread, by the way. ;)
     
  29. Silvia B

    Silvia B Senior Member

    Italy - Italian
    Oh! I have to add:

    We can also receive marks as 7.1/2, 6+, 8- etc.

    Is it the same in other countries?

    Bye!
     
  30. Encolpius

    Encolpius Senior Member

    Prague
    Hungarian
    in Hungary

    5 - jeles [the best]
    4 - jó
    3 - közepes
    2 - elégséges
    1 - elégtelen [the worst]
     
  31. emma42 Senior Member

    North East USA
    British English
    When did we start having 1st* in British Universities? It didn't happen in my day (shakes walking stick).
     
  32. timpeac

    timpeac Senior Member

    England
    English (England)
    "A starred first" was certainly around in my day - unless it was specific to my univesity.:)

    Edit - oh well you would already have known that I had that grading system since I see I mention it above.
     
  33. emma42 Senior Member

    North East USA
    British English
    Yes, it was to your post I was referring, Tim, me old mucker.*


    *BE slang = "my old friend".
     
  34. Blehh.

    Blehh. Junior Member

    Houston.
    USA, English
    Man, sign me up for European schooling. The grading system in the US is ridiculously strict! (The schooling system itself needs serious work.)

    This is for my school: (They don't use +/- signs, I don't know why. =/ )
    A: 90-100
    B: 80-89
    C: 75-79
    D: 70-74
    F: 69 or below

    70 is passing.
     
  35. Lemminkäinen

    Lemminkäinen Senior Member

    Oslo, Norway
    Norwegian (bokmål)
    The Norwegian grading systems:

    Elementary school (6-12 years old):

    No grades. Teachers sometimes give feedback with comments such as "good", "very good", "excellent", but the choice of comments varies from teacher to teacher.

    Ungdomsskolen (13-15 years old) and videregående skole (16-18 years old):

    6 - More than average. Independence and distinguishment.
    5 - More than average. A little less independence than a 6.
    4 - Average or a little more than average.
    3 - A little below average.
    2 - Below average. Many faults, and a hesitant approach to the subject.
    1 - Below average. Very weak and insufficient (or none) måloppnåelse ("reach of goals" - there are specific goals for each subject that students should reach).

    It's possible with +'s and -'s on tests and papers (but not on the final grades), and it's also possible to get a "sliding grade", e.g. 4/3.
    The order is: 3, 3+, 3/4, 4/3, 4-, 4 &c.
    This is more widely used at ungdomsskolen, but the usage depends on the school and the teacher.

    In addition, there are given characters in orden ("order", depends on whether a student forgets books, doing his homework &c.) and atferd ("behaviour", depends on the student's behaviour in and outside class).

    These characters are based on the old grading system (before 1999):

    G (god) - good; regular order and behaviour
    Ng (nokså god) - somewhat good; clear breaches on regular order and behavious)
    Lg (lite god) - little good; in extraordinary cases with large deviations of regular order and behaviour

    Universities:

    A - fremragende (excellent)
    B - meget god (very good)
    C - god (good)
    D - brukbar (satisfactory)
    E -tilstrekkelig (sufficient)
    F - ikke bestått (fail)
     
  36. Maja

    Maja Senior Member

    Binghamton, NY
    Serbian, Serbia
    In Serbia ->
    Primary and Secundary school:

    1 - NEDOVOLJAN (failing)
    2 - DOVOLJAN (acceptable)
    3 - DOBAR (good)
    4 - VRLO DOBAR (very good)
    5 - ODLIČAN (excellent)

    University:

    5 - failing
    6 - passing grade
    7 -
    8 -
    9 -
    10 - excellent
     
  37. tvdxer Senior Member

    Minnesota, U.S.A.
    Minnesota, U.S.A. - English
    The thread about parents protesting grades or whatsuch has inspired me to ask all of you a question I, being a university student, consider very interesting:

    What is the grading system like in your country's schools?

    In the U.S., most high schools and universities primarily use the A-F system. Students are assigned one of the letter grades based on what percentage of assignment and test points they have received (it is very common to give different weights to assignments, tests, quizzes, etc., however). In my experience the most typical scale is this:

    A, A-: 90 - 100%
    B, B+, B-: 80 - 89%
    C, C+, C-: 70 - 79%
    D, D+, D-: 60 - 69%
    F: <60%

    Where a grade becomes a + or - depends heavily on the teacher. In some classes, a B might become a B+ at 86.0%, while in others you might need 88.0% to get a B+.

    There is no E. It seems more convenient to automatically go to "F", for "failure". You do not pass a class if you receive an F (generally for the semester).

    At one point in time, a "C" meant "average", but today, due to a phenomenon known as "grade inflation", "C"'s are undesirable for most students. B+'s, B's, and B-'s are most often the average today .

    A grade point average, one of the main benchmarks of academic achievement in high school (the other being standardized tests, such as the ACT and SAT) and college, is computed as follows (at least in my personal experience):

    A: 4.0
    A-: 3.7
    B+: 3.3
    B: 3.0
    B-: 2.7
    C+: 2.3
    C: 2.0
    C-: 1.7
    D+: 1.3
    D: 1.0
    D-: 0.7
    F: 0.0

    Grades in each class are multiplied by the number of credits the class is worth, and divided by the total number of credits earned. For example:

    Calculus : B- : 2.7 : 4 credits
    Microbiology : C+ : 2.3 : 4 credits
    Spanish : A : 4.0 : 4 credits
    Organ Recital : A : 4.0 : 2 credits
    Physical Conditioning : C : 2.0 : 2 credits

    Total 16 credits

    [(2.7 * 4) + (2.3 * 4) + (4.0 * 4) + (4.0 * 2) + (2.0 * 2)] / 16 = 3.0, "B" average

    Some classes can be taken on a simple "pass / fail" basis. I've never taken such a class, and am not sure about the following, but I think the credits earned by that class will be added to the student's cumulative number of credits, but it will not be computed into the GPA.

    How does your country's system work? (No, I don't expect anybody to give as detailed as an explanation as above)
     
  38. tvdxer Senior Member

    Minnesota, U.S.A.
    Minnesota, U.S.A. - English
    Wow, I should have searched!

    Sorry about that!

    But let's bring this topic back...
     
  39. Etcetera

    Etcetera Senior Member

    St Petersburg, Russia
    Russian, Russia (St Petersburg)
    The Russian system (used noth at schools and universities) is as follows:
    5 = отлично = excellent
    4 = хорошо = good
    3 = удовлетворительно = satisfactory
    2 = плохо = poor
    *1 = очень плохо = very poor.
    The last mark isn't used at universities at all, and is very seldom used at schools.
     
  40. GEmatt

    GEmatt Senior Member

    La Côte, Switzerland
    English/BE, Français/CH, Deutsch/CH (rustier & rustier)
    In Switzerland, it's the opposite of Germany:

    6 - Very good
    5 - Good
    4 - Satisfactory
    3 - Unsatisfactory
    2 - Poor
    1 - Very poor

    Half-grades are in use as well ("4-5" or "4.5"), and in some places, smaller increments are used, such as "4-", which is not 4 "minus", but between a 4 and a 4-5.

    My high school was similar, but stuck a "7" at the top of the chart, for "Excellent".
     
  41. roxcyn

    roxcyn Senior Member

    USA
    American English [AmE]
    Some schools use "E" for F and it looks like some schools use "U" also. I would like to comment on schools in USA. The basic grading system is as follows:

    90-100 A
    80-89 B
    70-79 C
    60-69 D
    59 or below F

    As you have seem from the various posts many schools manipulate those basic numbers, some of the numbers higher. Since schools in USA vary from state the state and school district to school district, each school district sets the grade system.

    One school system in my city gives students holistic scores for writing and speaking (for another language):

    8--9: Exceeds proficiency
    6--7: Meets Proficiency
    5--6: Working towards Proficiency
    3--4 Need for intervention
    2 and below No acceptable

    The holistic scores are converted into numbers, for example most writings and speakings are worth 25 points. So a score of 9 would be 25, 8--9 would be 24. The students need to have at least an 80% in reading, writing, listening and speaking at the end of the class to move onto the next level. If they do not have those levels they must take summer school or may repeat the class so that they can become proficient---otherwise they do not get course credit for the class and will not more on in the language.
     
  42. roxcyn

    roxcyn Senior Member

    USA
    American English [AmE]
    Refering to my last post I would say the same goes for universities. Each university in the States sets what their grade point system will be. The "standard" system is:

    A 4.0
    B 3.0
    C 2.0
    D 1.0
    F (E or U): 0.0

    Many schools have the pluses and minuses: A+, A-, B+, etc.

    The difference between an A and A+, A+ would be that you got 100% or more (especially if there was extra credit offered in the class). The universities I have atteneded never gave A+ at all. As I said the grade system depends on the university.
     
  43. Reina140

    Reina140 Senior Member

    USA--English
    My school was very strict.

    A=100-93
    B=92-85
    C=84-77
    D=76-70
    F=69 and lower

    We didn't really apply the + & -'s when grading but the plus is the highest number in each category and the minus is the lowest. For ejemplo:

    100=A+
    93=A-

    92=B+
    85=B-

    84=C+
    77=C-

    76=D+
    70=D-
     
  44. curly

    curly Senior Member

    English - Ireland
    For Irish secondary schools we have no comments on whether a particular grade is good or not, except that under 40% is a fail.

    Junior Cycle

    A = 85%-100%
    B = 70%-84%
    C = 55%-69%
    D = 40%-54%

    E = 25-39%
    F = 10-25%
    NG = under 10%

    The senior cycle just splits those grades into A1s A2s etc.

    Any pass grade at higher level is an honour and an A at Ordinary is an honour.

    We get an automatic 10% if we take our test in Irish (meaning we can get 100% quite easily if we speak Irish) are there any other countries that give a bonus percentage like this?
     
  45. Thomsen Senior Member

    Washington, D.C.
    English USA
    A facet of this topic would be what expectations are for good grades. In America students often acheive and are gladly given by teachers A+ for good work. In fact if a teacher finds every student excellent he could award them all A+. This has almost never happened I imagine, but it is not impossible. I was told by my French teacher years ago that no French student receives a 20. A 20 is perfect and no student is perfect.

    Is that still true? Is it true in other systems?
     
  46. Reina140

    Reina140 Senior Member

    USA--English
    Wow, you only have to be above a 40% to pass, my God, that's 29 points lower than in my school. And you get extra credit just for speaking the language you've known since birth? Well, definitely not in my school, we didn't have any bonuses like that. The only time we'd usually have any bonus, would be an optional essay at the end of a test usually only worth about 5 points.
     
  47. maxiogee Senior Member

    imithe
    Hah, would it were so!
    The Irish-language-speaking population of Ireland is tiny. Less than 5% would be able to conduct a half-decent conversation on a random topic of current affairs.
    We are an English-speaking nation.
     
  48. Reina140

    Reina140 Senior Member

    USA--English
    Oh, well I was unaware that not many knew the language. I knew that Irish people spoke English, but I thought that they also knew Irish. Okay, well that makes much more sense then.
     
  49. curly

    curly Senior Member

    English - Ireland
    I'd also point out that a higher minimum pass percentage doesn't really mean anything, tests are supposed to be designed so that the majority of students get the "average" mark aren't they?
     
  50. Reina140

    Reina140 Senior Member

    USA--English
    In our different grading systems, here's the difference.

    Here's the results of a 20 question test:

    Ireland 14/20=70%==B

    My school 14/20=70%==D- (one point above failing)
     

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