not to, in order not to, so as not to

Discussion in 'Spanish-English Grammar / Gramática Español-Inglés' started by Blade Runner, Oct 28, 2007.

  1. Blade Runner

    Blade Runner Senior Member

    València, European Union
    Catalan (València) & Spanish (Spain)
    Can I have a native English opinion on the diffetrences between...?

    1. I study not to fail the exam.
    2. I study in order not to fail the exam.
    3. I study so as not to fail the exam.

    Are the 3 of them correct? Is it just a question of style (formal vs. colloquial)?
     
  2. Mr. Chaz

    Mr. Chaz Senior Member

    Alabama
    United States - English
    Me parecen bien 2 y 3... 3 me parece más formal.

    No diría #1 si no voy a agregar algo más...

    I study not to fail the exam but to pass it. (haha)
     
  3. daisxyx Senior Member

    Nottingham, UK
    England, English
    1. I study not to fail the exam.
    This implies 'I study not to fail the exam, but to..' (which makes little sense)

    2. I study in order not to fail the exam.
    I think this is ok, although it sounds strange.

    3. I study so as not to fail the exam.
    This is perfectly fine.

    I would probably say 'I study so that/so I won't fail the exam'.
     
  4. Blade Runner

    Blade Runner Senior Member

    València, European Union
    Catalan (València) & Spanish (Spain)
    I think I've got it now, but what about in affirmative sentences?

    1. I study to pass the exam.
    2. I study in order to pass the exam.
    3. I study so as to pass the exam.
     
  5. daisxyx Senior Member

    Nottingham, UK
    England, English
    1. I study to pass the exam.
    Yep.
    2. I study in order to pass the exam.
    Yep (bit more formal)
    3. I study so as to pass the exam.
    I think this is grammatically correct, although less common.
     
  6. Blade Runner

    Blade Runner Senior Member

    València, European Union
    Catalan (València) & Spanish (Spain)
    Thanks a lot daisyxyx. Is it seen like that in the US too Mr. Chaz?
     
  7. Sprache Senior Member

    United States
    English/inglés
    It's pretty much the same in the US.

    The two most common ones are:
    I study so (that) I won't fail the exam.
    I study to pass the exam.
     

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