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service du personnel / ressources humaines

Discussion in 'French-English Vocabulary / Vocabulaire Français-Anglais' started by brusselsclaire, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. brusselsclaire Senior Member

    Brusslels
    French - Belgian; English - British
    What's the difference between service du personnel (personnel department?) and ressources humaines (human resources)?
     
  2. Keith Bradford

    Keith Bradford Senior Member

    Brittany, NW France
    English (Midlands UK)
    They are identical, except that Personnel went out of fashion about 20 years ago.
     
  3. LART01

    LART01 Senior Member

    The Hague,Netherlands
    French-France
    ça se dit toujours, quand même!
    Le service du personnel est souvent un des services, voire l'unique ou le plus important du département, de la division ou de la direction des ressources humaines.
     
    Last edited: Mar 10, 2011
  4. SteveRusso Senior Member

    France
    Français de France
    I would not say so.

    Service du personnel: Taking care of ... personnel, ie employees matters.
    Ressources humaines: Encompasing personnel matters, but also, for instance, recruitment (ie people who may get employed by the company).

    Wikipedia entry for "Gestion des Ressources Humaines" may be a good reference.
    http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestio...ines#Les_m.C3.A9tiers_des_ressources_humaines
     
  5. Keith Bradford

    Keith Bradford Senior Member

    Brittany, NW France
    English (Midlands UK)
    I agree with all you say, but 30-40 years ago, the Personnel Department used to do all those things too! However, in France things may have been different.
     
  6. GentillyJoe Junior Member

    Fontainebleau
    English - US
    Oui, même les spécialistes des RH utilisent les deux termes. Il n'en est pas moins vrai que << Ressources Humaines >> remplace ce qu'on appelait naguère le Service du personnel. Mais un site d'un grand groupe peut avoir son Service du personnel alors que la << gestion des RH >> se passe à un niveau plus élevé et centralisé.
     

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