Discussion in 'English Only' started by Mmustafa, May 10, 2008.
What is correct: he earns two thousands OR two thousand per month?
The word ''thousand'' is not used in plural form if there is a number before it. But if you said ''thousands of people', that would be correct.
That's fine, thank you both.
I think I can say that he earns two thousand pounds, or he earns two thousands !
No, he earns two thousand is the only correct way.
Without S even there is no noun after it ?
Yes, although He earns two thousand is an unusual sentence.
You'd be more likely to hear
He earns two thousand a week.
He earns ten thousand a month.
He earns fifty thousand a year.
He earns two thousand [dollars/euros] a week.
The unit (noun) is often omitted.
But what if two people from different countries (different currency) compare there salary?
In that case, they specify units.
Person A makes two thousand dollars a week.
Person B makes four thousand euros a week.
Thank you. These simple and clear explanations are always very useful.
But, how about "the years two thousand"?
Is it correct or, in this particular case, it would be preferable to use the plural version "the years two thousands"?
Please advice and many thanks to you all for your invaluable work.
We don't say that with 'years'. We do use the plural when we talk about past centuries: the 1800s = the eighteen-hundreds = the years 1800 to 1899. So I suppose we might talk about the 2000s = the two thousands = the years 2000 to 2099. But I have never heard this. We're still not used to the new millennium and still haven't got comfortable with how we speak of it.
Talking about pure numbers, we can also use plurals: 'the total is somewhere in the two thousands' = it's somewhere between 2000 and 2999, but I'm not sure where. We talk about 'the low two thousands' (2000 to perhaps about 2300) and 'the low thousands' (somewhere over 1000 to about 3000, but not a larger number of thousands).
As I used above, we use 'years' with two end-points: the years 1800 to 1850.
It is quite clearer now. In fact in English you don't need to use the word 'years'.
My problem is that I was giving an instruction, in English, to not-English speaking people and for them the right expression comes with 'years' (for example, in English you say 'the Sixties', in Italian we say 'the years Sixties').
Conclusively, I believe, like you, that the right expression is "the two thousands" and not "the years two thousand/s". Thank you very much.
It sounds like you are looking for a term (like the sixties, or the eighties) for the years between 2000 and 2009. Unfortunately, there is no term which has been widely adopted. The decade from 2010 through 2019 doesn'thave a name either. Maybe someday someone will hit on one. I feel sure that 2020 through 2029 will be "the twenties." Context will make it clear that we don't mean the 1920s or the 1620s.
Thank you Sparky, you're right, I was looking for a definition of the past decade (2000 - 2010).
I understand there is not a widely adopted term.
This gives me some freedom to say something like "the two thousands" and wait for a better definition in the future.
In any case, as far as I know, this is the expression commonly used in Italian, French, Spanish, Polish, Ukrainian and Russian.
The decade 2000 - 2009 is fairly commonly referred to as "the Noughties" (at least by BrE speakers).
Here's an example from the Telegraph:
Thank you very much. At least I now know another pure-British expression.
I was really hoping some variation on "nought" would become accepted in the US, but alas, none has, at least not so far. So I think "the two thousands," while boooooorrrrrrrrring, is your best bet, Educational.
The thing with "the two thousands" is that it could refer to any of the following time periods:
How about the "thousand-tens", etc. until, after a couple of decades, we'll get back to the old fashion "the thirties, fifties, seventies, etc."?
For a great deal more information about the naming of decades (which is really off-topic in this thread about earnings) please see:
Saying years - how to speak, pronounce, year numbers ... years and decades past, present and future; the 2000s (noughties?), 2010, 2012 ...
two thousand (no s) if you are talking about money
however, if you are talking about the year, we (lawyers) usually put "s" in the UK but not in USA. For instance:
IN TESTIMONY WHEREOF I have hereunto subscribed my name and affixed my Stamp at [address], this 7th day of July two thousands and thirteen. (with "s").
Do "we"? I realize I'm an AmE speaker, but I've read a lot of BE, and I've never seen that. Your example is apparently from a legal document, Tlaw, and such documents often include things that are never or seldom seen in regular writing or speech. Perhaps "two thousands and thirteen" is one of those.
Hi Kate. Exactly what I said. We (lawyers) use thousands with "s" in UK. On the contrary, when I work in New York, I rarely see the "s".
I am a lawyer not a translator. I find this website very helpful, and I am trying to help back with the "legalese" when I can.
p.s. - Besides The Telegraph - London newspaper - uses "thousands" with "s" as well.
I'm sorry I wasn't clear. Lawyers might indeed use thousands to indicate years in legal documents, but I don't think even lawyers do so in regular speech and writing. Your earlier post seemed to indicate that you do, but if I misinterpreted you, I apologize.
As for the Telegraph, can you find a citation? I am sure it uses thousands at times - everybody does - but I find it very difficult to believe that it uses thousands to indicate a year. I just did a quick search on the Telegraph's site and all I found were years written as figures ("1942," "2013," etc.), which is the way most of us write them. But maybe I didn't search hard enough.
But even if the Telegraph does do so, I don't believe you'll find that many modern BE speakers and writers do. It's a very antiquated way of referring to years, at least as far as I know.
Confirm. Very antiquated and used in writing only.
If you use Google to search for "two thousands and thirteen" and page forward, you will find that there are only 34 hits. None of those hits appear to have been written by anyone in the legal profession.
Separate names with a comma.