1. panjabigator

    Hindi, Urdu: rami/ramaa رمنا اور رمانا

    Hi all! I am trying to understand what रमी/रमा means here. I recognize the word from Gujarati to mean "to play," but hoping someone can make this usage clear for me. The larger context:
  2. panjabigator

    Hindi: सीखना - Intransitive use

    Hi all, Reading a short story from Susham Bedi (found here) and I noticed this usage of सीखना that I never saw before. 1. भैया भी तो लेट सीखा था 2. ममा तो आज तक नहीं सीखीं Is there an intransitive usage here that is common? I would've otherwise used a ने. Thanks! PG
  3. D

    Please help with the grammatically correct translation for Iqbal's Tulu-e-Islam 4th stanza (lines 8-9)

    In Muhammad Iqbal's Tulu e Islam, the 4th couplet in the 4th stanza reads as follows گمان آبادِ ہستی میں یقیں مردِ مسلماں کا بیاباں کی شبِ تاریک میں قندیلِ رہبانی For the first line in this couplet, I have found differing interpretations online: An English translation: "In the abode...
  4. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, [Urdu]: optional aisaa / aise before relative clauses

    Friends, In the Hindi grammar book by Saphiro, the following sentence appears: 1.mujhe tiin kamroN_vaalaa pralauT (=lot?) chaahie [jis_meN saat log aaraam se rɛh sakeN] And then, in some sport news in Hindi, I see a similar usage, but with a preceding aise: 2.hockey Tiim ke kaptaan ne...
  5. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, Urdu: fiisdii

    Friends, What is the difference between fiisdii and fiisad? Examples where I found fiisdii: Some article (in Hindi) about Canadian Punjabis: paakistaan meN panjaab bole_vaale log kul aabaadii kaa taqriiban 48 fiisdii haiN A Pakistani cricket player praising an opponent's skill: afriidii...
  6. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu, Hindi: "non j-v" sentences

    Friends, There is a big hole in my understanding of relative-correlative sentences that I need your help filling. My problem is that grammars focus exclusively on examples that have these 2 characteristics: - they use a relative word starting with /j/ and a correlative of the distant kind...
  7. A

    Hindi-Urdu: to be worth

    How do we say: - It's worth going to see the festival / going to the festival is worth it - Seeing the play was worth the wait. - I don't think it's worth your time. I know for value for money we can say paisa vasool. But outside of money, I wasn't sure how best to formulate the above...
  8. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, Urdu: more about "the man I love"

    Friends, Today I was taking to a friend of mine who is a functional Hindi speaker. I asked him the following three questions: Question #1. I am trying to say "I live with the man I love". Which one of these 2 sentences do you think says it more accurately? 1. maiN us aadmii ke saath...
  9. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: جُوں جُوں لیا تیرا ناوں وُوں وُوں مارا سارا گاوں

    Friends, I found this fragment in Rekhta. جُوں جُوں لیا تیرا ناوں وُوں وُوں مارا سارا گاوں What does it mean? Does naaoN stand for naam? It so, would it mean somehing like "As I took your name, I conquered the whole village"? Is it some sort of religious invocation (to God's name)? Or is...
  10. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: لخت جگر

    Friends, In the following sentence, should laxt-jigar be translated as "pieces of (his) heart (liver)"? I would think so, because of the plural: جوں جوں اس کے ہاتھ تاروں پر پڑتے تھے توں توں اس کی پلکوں سے لخت جگر جھڑتے تھے and it should be translated word-by-word, not as an izafat...
  11. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, [Urdu]: bol uThnaa, chillaa uThnaa

    Friends, When one uses uThnaa as an auxiliar verb, it indicates only suddenness, or there is also the suggestion of some ascending (standing) action? For example, in: jab bhii tiraNgaa dekhte hai, to man bol uThtaa hai «bharat maataa kii je» is it the heart or soul personified that...
  12. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, Urdu: jaisaa aadmii aaj huuN

    Friends, In an interview (in Hindi) given by the actor Pankaj Tripathi, he says that he aspires to improve as a person, rather than as an actor. The way he expresses that idea is as follows: merii laRaaii achchhaa ekTar banne se zyaada(h) achchhaa insaan banne kii hai maiN jaisaa aadmii aaj...
  13. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, Urdu: commas to indicate incidental information

    Friends, Are commas also utilized in HU, as a way differentiate a clause that provides essential information versus another that provides only incidental information? For example, if I say 1. vo laRkaa jo vahaaN khaRaa hai meraa beTaa hai 2. vo laRkaa, jo vahaaN khaRaa hai, meraa beTaa hai...
  14. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, Urdu: proximal correlatives

    Friends, Can proximal words like je, yahaaN, itnaa, idhaar, aisaa, ab, etc. be the correlatives in a relative-correlative construction? In other words, are phrases like: jo laRkii khaRii, ye laRkii lambii hai jitnii ho sake, itnii madad karnii chaahie jidhar tuu jaae, idhar maiN bhii...
  15. G

    Urdu: تو اس کی ماں اسے روئے

    Friends, ’اس کی ماں اسے روئے’ occurring at the end of the following sentence seems to be an idiomatic expression. If so, could you kindly tell me what it means? Thanks: سعدی کے قریب سے گزرنے لگی تو اس نے سر اٹھا کر دیکھا، زمر نے ملامتی، کاٹ دار نظر اس پہ ڈالی اور آگے چلتی چلی گئی یہاں تک کہ...
  16. G

    Urdu: ناک سے مکھی اڑانا

    Friends, What does naak se makkhii uRaana mean, as occurring in the following text: “شائد وہ ٹھیک ہیں۔ میں اپنے غم، بیماری اور ٹراما میں خود غرض ہوگئی ہوں ۔ میں نے دوسری طرف کی کہانی سننا چھوڑ دی ہے۔ مجھےاس کی بات سننی چاہیے تھی۔ وہ قتل تھا یا نہیں، مجھے اس سے ملناچاہیے تھا۔” “ تمہاری جگہ...
  17. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu, HIndi: subjunctive at both sides of a condition

    Friends, In songs, I find often forms that seem to be subjunctive, both inside and outside a condition, as in: teraa jalva(h) jo paauN, maiN har Gam bhuul jaauuN = "if I attained your brilliance, I would forget every sorrow" tuu bhii dekhe agar, to kahe, hamanshin = "if you saw her, you...
  18. Q

    Urdu, Hindi - New trend (?) where yih and vuh not declined to is and us

    Friends, I have noticed on both Pakistani and Indian channels presenters and others not declining yih to is and vuh to us. I have heard plenty of such cases on Pakistani TV channels but haven't written any examples down. Just now I heard one of the sports presenters on an Indian channel utter...
  19. G

    Urdu: pronunciation of نیہواڑنا

    Friends, what is the pronunciation and meaning of نیہواڑنا (the sentence is سر نیہواڑے، وہ اکڑوں بیٹھا تھا). On the net too the combination سر نیہواڑے is frequently encountered. Thanks.
  20. G

    Urdu: کوئی نیک نہ تھا

    Friends, This sentence is from a Urdu novel, and I am unable to understand the meaning of the word نیک occurring there: (Curiously, there is no entry for نیک in Platts Dictionary) Thanks for help.
  21. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, Urdu: preferred possessive pronoun when distance is unimportant.

    Friends, When using possessive pronouns like is_kii, un_kaa, etc., but in a context in which the possessor's distance in relation to the speaker is unimportant, is it my impression, or speakers overwhelmingly choose the distant forms, i.e., us_kaa, un_kii, etc. over the is_, in_ forms? Is it...
  22. U

    Urdu: Considered (verb)

    For example: "Is this action considered committing a crime?" کیا اس کارروائی کو جرم کا ارتکاب کرنا سمجھا جاتا ہے؟
  23. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: pronunciation of words in اِعْ

    Friends, When the word starts with alif (with zer) + 3ain, I notice that the set tends to be pronounced "e". For example: اِعْتِبار etibaar "trust" اِعْتِدال etidaal "moderation" اِعْدام edaam "annihilation" (Those words also happen to have a jazm over the 3ain) Can I safely...
  24. G

    Urdu: انائی

    A man acquitted of a murder charge foisted on him is saying this: “جن نظروں سے میرے رشتے دار مجھے دیکھتے ہیں، میرے قریب آنےپہ میرے بارے میں سرگوشیاں کرتے ہیں، ان پہ خون جلانے کے لئےمیرے پاس نہ وقت ہے نہ انائی۔” What exactly does انائی mean here? Thanks for help.
  25. Q

    Urdu: Positive version of "maiN shahr nahiiN jaane kaa"

    Friends, I began the following thread in the past Urdu: maiN shahr nahiiN jaane kaa/mujhe shahr nahiiN jaanaa hai marrish SaaHib in one of the posts (#21) stated the following. "QP SaaHib, I meant to say that example a) maiN shahr nahiiN jaane kaa, is a negative statement and doesn't have...
  26. S

    Urdu, Hindi: Give me/us their names. Get us their names!

    Dear Foreros, In a police interrogation where an accomplice is put through the ringer a question that is often yelled to him/her is give me the names of the kingpins involved. How would one express that very sentiment in Urdu/Hindi? Would "mujhe/hameN naam do un ke/us kaa" suffice or is naam...
  27. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: using tasdiid to differentiate kiya

    Friends, In some texts (not many), I see the tashdiid over the chhoTii ye used to differentiate kiya (past of karnaa) from kya (what), like this: کیا کیّا Is that a valid usage of the tashdiid, or both words should be spelled the same? Thanks in advance
  28. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: hamzaa placement on final chhoTii ye

    Friends, In final form, is the hamzaa typically used over the chhoTii ye directly, or it is more typical to have it "on its own seat", preceding the chhoTii ye? In other words, to say "she came" can I write آئ , or it has to be آئی ? Are both forms completely equivalent, or there is any...
  29. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: hamzaa in "illegal" position over vaao

    Friends, I would like to know what is in the mind of profficient Urdu writers when they occasionally put a hamzaa over the vaao in words like ہؤا (past participle of honaa). What are they trying to say? That they disagree with the interpretation that would otherwise be forced by the...
  30. G

    Urdu: آغوش ہوس واکی تھی

    Friends, Here is something quite perplexing: what does آغوش ہوس واکی تھی mean in the text below: لیکن وہی وزیر جو دریاگنج کی حویلی کے مہمان خانے میں دھیرےدھیرے کھلی تھی ، اور پھر اس نے اس طرح آغوش ہوس واکی تھی کہ شمس الدین احمد کو اس کا بحر حسن سراسر اوج و موج وتلاطم لگتا تھا اور اس کا شوق...
  31. G

    Urdu: ہونہہ

    How is ہونہہ pronounced? What does it mean? “مومنہ! تم اتنی اداس کیوں ہو؟” علی نے اسے بغور دیکھتے ہوئے کہا۔ “کیا تم نہیں جانتے؟” مومنہ کا لحجہ شکوہ کناں تھا۔ “شائد۔” اس نے نفی میں سر ہلا دیا۔ “ہونہہ، مجھے پتا ہے علی تم شائد نہیں یقیناً جانتے ہو۔” مومنہ کے انداز میں بھرپور یقین تھا، علی اس کے...
  32. G

    Urdu: جم

    Friends, what does the word جم mean in the following text: بیٹا! جب تمہیں اعتراض نہیں ہے تو میں تمہاری ماں ہوں، مجھے کیا اعتراض ہو سکتا ہے۔” “تھینک یو مما جان۔” “کون لڑکی ہو سکتی ہے، یہاں آفس، گھر یا جم اس کا حلقہ احباب اتنا وسیع نہیں ہے، ۔۔۔” Thanks.
  33. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: names of the aspirated consonants

    Friends, Do the digraphs forming the aspirated consonants for example as ڑھ , دھ have proper names such as "ڑھے"، "دھے" or they should only be properly referred to as "the aspirated/haayya(h) form of the consonant x"?
  34. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu, Hindi: gender of words referred to metalinguistically

    Friends, When one speaks of a word metalinguistically (i.e. the word sound or spelling per se, not the meaning it represents), that word is feminine (because it is a baat) or it is a generic masculine? For example, if I wanted to say: Neha said a "hey!". That "hey" is masculine or feminine...
  35. 9

    Urdu: etymology of "nendra"

    Hello all. Nendra نیندرا is money that is given by wedding guests to the family of the newly wedded couple to cover the expenses. I was wondering if anyone had any idea where this word comes from. It doesn't sound like a loan word. Thanks in advance
  36. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: the sign ــیـ is a baRii ye or a chhoTii ye?

    Friends, When words have this sign ــیـ , without a zer, and denoting the sound /e:/ like in پیچ = "screw, complication" That sign is "the middle form of the baRii ye" or "the middle form of the chhoTii ye"? For me, it was always the latter, as I always thought the baRii ye doesn't really...
  37. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu: soouuN

    Friends, What is soouuN in the following context? نعمان شوق - غزل کھیل ہی کھیل میں چھو لوں میں کنارا اپنا ایسے سوؤں کہ جگانا مجھے مشکل ہو جائے The Rekhta dictionary gives "sleep" as a definition, but what would be the headword? (BTW, I am just assuming it is soouuN, with 2 long vowels...
  38. D

    Punjabi, Hindi, Urdu: chalaakomaasii

    I’ve heard the expression “chalaakomaasii”, often used for young kids who act clever or naughty in an endearing way. I’m curious about the formation of this term. It may be of Punjabi origin but I have heard it used by non-Punjabis as well. How would you analyze the term “chalaakomaasii”? Does...
  39. G

    Urdu: کیوں، کیسی رہی؟

    Friends, In the text quoted below, the writer sees his friend Budh Singh Qalandar, surrounded by a crowd, from a distance. ایک لمہے کے لیے میں نے بدھ سنگھ قلندر سے آنکھیں چار کیں۔ مجھے ان کی آنکھوں میں بھی ایک تبسم نظر آیا۔ گویا کہہ رہے ہوں،کیوں، کیسی رہی؟ Looks like ‘kyuuN, kaisii rahii?‘...
  40. RustyHindi

    [Hindi-Urdu] Pronouncing यहाँ as याहाँ, महान as माहान, महा as माहा etc.

    I've noticed that I and many others I know pronounnce words following the pattern of consonant+schwa+h+'long a' with a 'long a' instead of the schwa. For example the pronouncing यहाँ as याहाँ, महान as माहान, महा as माहा. Am I just mishearing this or is this a Mumbai thing or does this happen in...
  41. G

    Urdu: سوارِ دولتِ جاوید کیا بلا ہے؟

    Friends, could you please give me a translation of the following sentence? I hope I have put the izafat in the right places: سوارِ دولتِ جاوید کیا بلا ہے؟ Thanks.
  42. G

    Urdu: آں

    Friends, I do not understand the meaning of آں in the following conversation: “سبحان اللہ، بڑے پائے کے بزرگ ہیں۔ ایک جہان ان کا مرید ہے۔ اور شاعری میں کیا ریختہ کیا فارسی، سعدئ وقت ہیں۔ “ہاں، لیکن افسوس کہ شاعری کی طرف آں جناب کی توجہ اب نہیں رہ گئی۔” .Thanks for help.
  43. G

    Urdu: سعدی وقت ہیں

    Friends, what does سعدی وقت ہیں mean, at the end of the following text: “شاعر تو میں بھی نہیں ہوں، یوں ہی ریختہ میں کچھ بک لیتا ہوں۔” “شاگردی کس کی اختیار فرمائی؟” “باقاعدہ شاگرد تو کسی کا نہیں ہوں، لیکن گاہے ماہے قبلہ میرزا صاحب از راہ تبرک ایک آدھ غزل پر نقطہ لگا دیتے ہیں۔ اس وقت میں...
  44. MonsieurGonzalito

    Urdu, Hindi: mph sound (مپھ / म्फ )

    Friends: Is mph (m + aspirated ph) a valid sound in either Urdu or Hindi? I cannot find in this forum a single word with the mph substring. In the Rekhta website (whose input box kind of suggests searches by substring as one types parts of the word) مپھ yields no results. Typing ंफ /...
  45. G

    Urdu: شام ہوکر ہی نہ دےگی

    Friends, I would like to know the meaning of ‘shaam ho kar hii nah degii’ in the following sentence: گرمیوں کی شام دیر سے ہوتی ہے، لیکن اس دن ایسا لگتا تھا شام ہو کر ہی نہ دے گی۔ Thanks.
  46. MonsieurGonzalito

    Hindi, (Urdu): independent usages of the NR sound

    Friends, If one takes away: - loanwords from Sanskrit like: viSHNRu, praaNR, kiraNR, pariNRiit, etc - loanwords from Punjabi like: sohNRii, raaNjhNRaa etc. - loanowrds from other languages: koNkaNR (?) - words in which the NR is not and independent sound (phoneme), but a mere nasal...
  47. Roymalika

    Urdu: میری نوکری لگوا دیں

    میں کافی عرصہ سے بے روزگار ہوں۔ میں نے اپنے علاقے کے چودہری سے بات کی۔ میں نے ان سے درخواست کی کہ "میری نوکری لگوا دیں"۔ The part is inverted commas is: Meri nokri (job) lagwa den. Can I please ask how native speakers of English say this part? Thanks a lot.
  48. A

    Urdu: -based, tainted, dysfunction

    Background: Example sentence: Certain honey-based products were found to be tainted with erectile dysfunction drugs. Potential translations: -based - ? (مبنی is used in other cases - film based on a book, et cetera. شہد سے بنے could be used.) tainted - آلودہ، ملوّث erectile - نعوظی...
  49. G

    Urdu: pronunciation of باصرار

    Friends, How does one pronounce باصرار which seems to be a combination of بہ with, and اصرار doggedness. Thanks.
  50. Roymalika

    Urdu to English translation: Kal merey dost ne mujhy aik pizza khilaya.

    Kal merey dost ne mujhy aik pizza khilaya. How would you translate this sentence into English? Thanks.