à la limite des lignes d’interaction enchevêtrées

fellini74

New Member
French English
Hello Wordreferencers,

Need you help on this one! I'm trying to translate a citation from french philosopher Deleuze, trying to explain what is exactly an interaction, especially in cinema.

Here is the sentence in french (beware of the jargon!):

« Et plus l’acte de parole devient autonome en dépassant les personnes déterminées, plus le champ de perception visuelle qu’il ouvre se présente comme problématique, orienté sur un point problématique à la limite des lignes d’interaction enchevêtrées ».

Here is my try, and honestly, it's not great:

“And the more the act of speech becomes autonomous, going beyond the identified protagonists, the more the field of visual perception it opens presents itself as problematic, oriented towards a problematic point, at the limit of the intertwined ties of interaction."

Thank you very (very) much for your help,

Fellini74
 
  • Embonpoint

    Senior Member
    English--American
    Ties of interaction doesn't make any sense in English. Can you explain (French is fine) what lignes d'interactions is? I"m also unclear (in French or English) what you mean by à la limite. That's often at the edge in English but I don't really understand the sentence well enough to be sure.
     

    Uncle Bob

    Senior Member
    British English
    Since I can't visualise a point which is "at the limit of intertwined lines" I wonder if it means "un point problématique [ou], à la limite, des lignes d'interaction...".
    I don't remember if Deleuze's punctuation is what one would expect.
     

    Mauricet

    Senior Member
    French - France
    La pensée de Deleuze me dépasse, mais sa ponctuation est ici sans mystère : il parle bien d'un « point problématique » qui se trouve à la limite des lignes d'interaction (entre les personnes, je suppose). On peut peut-être visualiser ce point comme le « point à l'infini » où se rejoignent des lignes parallèles, ou le centre d'un faisceau de spirales ... Une sorte de « point de fuite » comme dans la perspective en peinture ?
     
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