a picture of yours/you/yourself

[sb70012]

Hi,
Suppose that I am chatting to a girl on PalTalk Messenger.

1. Do you have a picture of yours?
2. Do you have a picture of yourself?
3. Do you have a picture of you?

Which one is correct?

Thank you.

 

[Ania R.]

In my opinion, option 2 seems the most fitting in this context.

 

[london calling]

Definitely Ania. The other two are incorrect.

 

[sb70012]

What if we say;

4. This is the picture of you.
5. This is the picture of yourself.
6. This is the picture of yours.

Again, number 5 is correct right?

 

[Ania R.]

In this case number 4 would be correct, because the subject is not "you" but "this" and thus "yourself" would be incorrect as it would require the pronoun "you", e.g.

You have a picture of yourself.

but

This is/I have a picture of you.

 

[sb70012]

I have got more confused now.

Once I asked a British person:
1. This is the car of mine.
2. This is the car of me.

He told me that number 1 (mine) is correct.

This is my question: Why in post #4 (you)= subject pronoun is correct but in post #6 (mine)= object possessive is correct?

I hope you understood me.

 

[Ania R.]

This is a slightly different situation. Let's see if I can explain it...

"A car of mine" means a car that belongs to me, so if we were talking about a picture that belongs to someone (in this case "you"), we could definitely say 'a picture of yours". Which could mean a picture of anything or anyone that belongs to a particular person. But here we are talking about a picture OF someone, as in a picture in which we can see someone's face, thus making the situation different. It's not a picture belonging to someone (like in the case with the car that you mentioned), but a picture showing someone. And thus the use of pronouns is different.

I hope you can understand what I mean

 

[Parla]

Once I asked a British person:
1. This is the car of mine.
2. This is the car of me.

He told me that number 1 (mine) is correct.

Really?
I'm amazed. To my mind, neither is correct. I'd say, "This is my car." I eagerly await comment from BE speakers.

 

[sb70012]

Really?

Yes I was chatting in a chat room and there was a British person. He told me 1 is correct. That's why I got confused.

 

[london calling]

Once I asked a British person:
1. This is the car of mine.
2. This is the car of me.

He told me that number 1 (mine) is correct.

Both are wrong. The Brit you spoke to doesn't know his own language.

 

[e2efour]

He was probably thinking of that car of mine or a car of mine.

But we are more likely to say that car of yours, e.g. Can I borrow that car of yours?
This does not exactly mean Can I borrow your car, since it suggests that there is something strange or unique about the car.

 

[Giorgio Spizzi]

Hullo, Lon and Ania.

Maybe it's the cold spell that's invaded Northern Italy, but I cannnot see why, if, say, "This is a picture of me" is correct, sb's #3 sentence "Do you have a picture of you?" should be considered wrong.

GS

 

[sb70012]

Thank you. Now I got it.

 

[Ania R.]

Hullo, Lon and Ania.

Maybe it's the cold spell that's invaded Northern Italy, but I cannnot see why, if, say, "This is a picture of me" is correct, sb's #3 sentence "Do you have a picture of you?" should be considered wrong.

GS

Because the subject of the second sentence is "you" and thus it requires a reflexive pronoun. Just like you would say "I have a picture of myself" because "I" requires a reflexive pronoun. "This" does not require a reflexive pronoun and thus you can say "This is a picture of me" or "That was a picture of you". And just like you would not need a reflexive pronoun if the person who had/seen (or any other verb) the picture was not the person in the picture, i.e. "Does she have a picture of you?" or "Have you seen that new picture of him?"

 

[Giorgio Spizzi]

Very instructive distinction, Ania, but verrrry hard for students to grasp.
Thank you anyway. One lives and learns.

GS

 

[Florentia52]

Ania is correct. "This is a picture of me" and "Do you have a picture of you?" are constructed differently.

This is a picture of me.
This is a picture of you.

Can you give me a picture of yourself?
Can I give you a picture of myself?

 

[mysina]

Hello. Which pronoun is correct in the following sentence? Thank you.

Could you send me a photo of you / yourself / yours?

 

[Cenzontle]

"Could you send me a photo of yourself?"
"Are they going to send me a photo of you?"
"I saw a photo of yours in the gallery, a picture you took of a landscape..."

 

[Andygc]

See
a picture of yours/you/yourself
a photo of me/myself

 

[JustKate]

I have merged your thread with one of those Andy found, Mysina. (Thank you, Andy.) If you have any further questions on this topic, you're welcome to add them to this thread.

JustKate
English Only moderator

 

[endlesspain]

So, if I have understood everything correctly:

-Are you going to send me a picture of yourself? (with your face in it.)
-I'm going to send you a picture of you...I took it three months ago at your cousin's party, and you look really handsome.
-I like that picture of yours...I'm talking about the one you took of that humongous house with the trees in the background (a picture that belongs to or was taken by the person I'm talking to, but he or she does not appear in the aforementioned picture.)
-He sent me a picture of me. (with my face in it.)
-I'd like to send you a picture of myself. (again, with my face in it.)


And what about : "let me send you a picture of you"/" Please, allow me to send you a picture of you" are those sentences correct? Or, as I suspect, the correct way to say it would be: "let me send you a picture of yourself"/"allow me to send you a picture of yourself".
If I'm asking "you" to let me, or allow me to do something, the subject would be "you", therefore I need to use "yourself".
Does that make any sense?

 

[london calling]

I'm not quite sure why you keep saying 'with your/my face in it'. Even a belfie would be classified as a 'picture of yourself/myself'.

And what about : "let me send you a picture of you"/" Please, allow me to send you a picture of you" are those sentences correct? Or, as I suspect, the correct way to say it would be: "let me send you a picture of yourself"/"allow me to send you a picture of yourself".

These all sound a little odd. Not incorrect, just odd. Maybe because I probably wouldn't ask them for their permission: I'd just send it.

 

[endlesspain]

But grammar-wise which one would you prefer?
Allow me to send you a picture of yourself?
Allow me to send you a picture of you?

And the difference between "have you seen that picture of him?" and "have you seen that picture of his?" would be that the former is a picture of "him", that shows that male person I'm talking about, and the latter is merely a picture that belongs to "him", but could be a picture showing a tree or a house or anything?