above/over and age expression

Discussion in 'English Only' started by Oh chang hwan, Jan 6, 2009.

  1. Oh chang hwan Member

    South Korea

    above the age of 60 / 60 and above
    over the age of 60 / 60 and over

    In the grammar book, Practical English Usage written by Michael Swan,
    He says "over" is usually used for age, and speed etc...

    Is it true?....
    Since I can find a lot of "above the age of 60"s in daily newspapers, I am not sure there is a preference for the usage of over and age.

    Or, I guess there is a structure preference for the expression.
    "over the age of 60" is more frequently used than "above the age of 60".
    And, "60 and above" is more frequently used than "60 and over".
    As I said, the above two sentences are purely based on my guess.

    What do you think?
  2. Cagey post mod (English Only / Latin)

    English - US
    I agree with this. "over the age of 60" is far more common than the "above the age of 60", according to Google.
    This seemed right, but when I looked over the Google results, they were approximately equal:
    The results for "60 and over" nearly all referring to age: 790
    The results for age "60 and above": 821
    In this last comparison, I give the count I got when I clicked through to the last page of actual citations. The English on the sites for this and the earlier comparison was for the most part grammatical, and they appear to give a fair indication of actual usage.
  3. Oh chang hwan Member

    South Korea
    You've been always great help to me, Cagey....
    Also, you teach me a good way to find a solution, counting system...
    Next time I get in trouble with this kind of problem, I'll try....
  4. El escoces Senior Member

    Buenos Aires
    English - UK
    In the same way I would expect to see, in BrE, "over the age of 60", I would also expect to see "60 and over" rather than "60 and above".
  5. Cagey post mod (English Only / Latin)

    English - US
    Doing the search for site:uk, and clicking through to the last pages of citations:
    The number of hits for "60 and over" site:uk 491
    The number of hits for age "60 and above" site:uk 336
    Clearly, this is a crude method of making such a comparison, but it suggests a preference in the direction you predict. However, it also suggests that in actual usage, the preference may not be as strong as expected.
  6. sanya2013

    sanya2013 Senior Member

    Over and above indeed make me confused.
    Last edited: Apr 6, 2013

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