aims and objectives

[mystie]

Is it correct to translate that to "les buts et les objectifs"?

 

[Londonners]

Sounds correct to me

 

[Paul Hisson]

Oui, cela me semble bien.

 

[mystie]

Merci beaucoup

 

[wildan1]

In my experience people usually say goals and objectives--is there a difference in your mind between aims and goals, mystie?

 

[Geordie_Wilber]

In my experience people usually say goals and objectives--is there a difference in your mind between aims and goals, mystie?

Maybe it's a British thing then, because "aims and objectives" is very common in the UK wildan...

 

[Julie Jane]

A mon avis, "les buts et objectifs" est redondant en français, même si c'est une expression courante en anglais. Il vaudrait peut-être mieux soit se contenter de "les objectifs" ou trouver quelque chose d'équivalent qui insiste sur cette notion d'"objectifs" sans cette redondance qui passe mal en français.

 

[wildan1]

Maybe it's a British thing then, because "aims and objectives" is very common in the UK wildan...

Thanks for the explanation, GW. (As I had said in my query about this, "in my experience"...) Aims and objectives sounds understandable, just unusual to my AE ear.

To me a goal (aim) is a general desired outcome, while an objective is a specific point of accomplishment which gets one to that general goal/aim.

 

[Geordie_Wilber]

Je ne suis pas sûr de pouvoir distinguer entre "aim" et "objective" en français, mais je vais le tenter quand meme !

Un "aim" est une raison d'être pour la société, l'association, etc., plutôt qu'un but.
Un "objective" est un chose à faire pour atteindre les "aims".

La phrase "aims and objectives" est plus souvent vu dans la constitution des dites organismes et chaque terme est suivi par une liste...

Aims
To reduce homelessness and poverty in the North East of England

Objectives
1. Raise awareness of the scale of homelessness by doing something
2. Provide accomodation for people by doing something else

Ca nous aide ou pas ?

 

[Geordie_Wilber]

Thanks for the explanation, GW. (As I had said in my query about this, "in my experience"...) Aims and objectives sounds understandable, just unusual to my AE ear.

A pleasure, as always and the "in my experience" had been duly noted - I try to make sure I do the same thing, much more helpful for other users when they can tell if something is universal or not - I picked that up from you a while ago now

To me a goal (aim) is a general desired outcome, while an objective is a specific point of accomplishment which gets one to that general goal/aim.

That's exactly the kind of thing I was trying to get across in my stumbling French

 

[Kitcitwapien]

D'accord avec Wildan et Wilber. Dans tout processus de planification stratégique, il existe une progression qui va du très général au très spécifique. Exemple: vision mission buts objectifs plan d'action, etc.

 

[mystie]

Maybe it's a British thing then, because "aims and objectives" is very common in the UK wildan...

You are right. "Aims and objectives" is British. And by this I mean the definitions you have given.

But then Julie Jane, can I simply use "les objectifs" to mean "the aims and objectives"?

I really can't find any proper translation. That's why I limited myself to "les buts et les objectifs".

 

[williamc]

Bonjour,

The main objective is to aim at the goal and obtain the required result.