Announcing the Dictionary of English Collocations on WR

Discussion in 'Comments and Suggestions' started by mkellogg, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. mkellogg Administrator

    South Florida
    English - US
    Hi everybody,

    I am excited to announce that we now have a "dictionary" of English collocations on WordReference.com.

    Collocations are words that tend to go together. You commit a crime, take a shower (at least in the US). You might be "raised on a farm". Sometimes languages are difficult and it is difficult to find the right adjective to go with a noun or use the language in an idiomatic way. This work is our attempt to make it easier to find this information.

    I am quite proud of our work here and hope it will be a great and invaluable resource for people, especially those learning English and trying to express themselves well.

    Mike
     
  2. swift

    swift Senior Member

    Spanish – Costa Rica (Valle Central)
    Awesome! :)
     
  3. Peterdg

    Peterdg Senior Member

    Belgium
    Dutch - Belgium
  4. Hector9

    Hector9 Senior Member

    Amazing :)
     
  5. JeSuisSnob

    JeSuisSnob Moderator

    Mexico City
    Mexican Spanish
    Excellent! This will be a very useful resource:)!
     
  6. irinet

    irinet Senior Member

    Bucharest
    Romanian
    That's wonderful news:):thumbsup:. I can't wait using it!
     
  7. Translostlation

    Translostlation Senior Member

    EE.UU.
    inglés
    Good piece of work, Mike. I just had a look and it seems to be a wonderful addition to WR.
     
  8. velisarius Senior Member

    Greece
    British English (Sussex)
    It's great Mike, congratulations.:)

    :idea: It has me thinking about some other features of the dictionary though - ones that a lot of members never even discover, or that they forget about.

    Apart from 'English definitions' and now the new 'English collocations', there are these:

    'English usage' (I just discovered that one today :rolleyes:)
    'English synonyms'
    the 'in context' feature (much underused, in my opinion)
    'images'
    the LISTEN pronunciation feature (available for many words)

    It might be useful to promote these features in some way, every now and again, with an eye-catching but discreet reminder - if that's technically possible;).
     
  9. chamyto

    chamyto Senior Member

    Burgos, Spain
    Spanish
    Great job, Mike!
     
  10. DearPrudence

    DearPrudence Dépêche Mod (AL, Sp-En mod)

    IdF
    French (lower Normandy)
    Great news! It looks brilliant: clear and complete. I need to find this kind of information pretty often so no doubt I'll be using this dictionary regularly.
    Thanks and congrats! :)
     
  11. DearPrudence

    DearPrudence Dépêche Mod (AL, Sp-En mod)

    IdF
    French (lower Normandy)
    I've used it twice today already :)
    I wanted to use it again and thought I would go to the English dictionary page
    chocolate - WordReference.com Dictionary of English

    The problem is that once you're there, there is no link to the Collocations dictionary.
    If you open the dropdown menu, it doesn't appear there (only the Thesaurus does and some bilingual dictionaries)

    If you want to go to the Collocations dictionary from the EO dictioanry (and from a few other dictionaries too (for others, you have to add 2 extra clicks)), you have to
    1. click on the arrow next to "English definition"
    2. Click on "more..."
    3. Scroll down to "English collocations"
    4. Retype your word as the lookup box is now empty
    5. Click on the magnifiying glass
    :eek: :(
    And that is, if you know that such a dictionary exists.
     
  12. velisarius Senior Member

    Greece
    British English (Sussex)
    If you are in English Only and your dictionary box is on the default "English Dictionary", it's easy to find "Collocations" on the drop-down menu.

    I too had trouble finding it from another forum.
     
  13. DearPrudence

    DearPrudence Dépêche Mod (AL, Sp-En mod)

    IdF
    French (lower Normandy)
    Even when I am in the English Only dictionary, I can't see the English Collocations Dictionary in the dropdown menu :confused:
    I can from all the forums, but not from the dictionaries.

    (sorry, I thought I could paste a screenshot but I can't)
     
  14. Peterdg

    Peterdg Senior Member

    Belgium
    Dutch - Belgium
    It is there, you know :D

    When you are in the dictionary, e.g. English only, then on top of the page, there is a search box and next to it it says "English definition" with a down arrow at the right. Click the down arrow. The last entry there is "more...". Click "more..." and scroll down to the very end. There you can find the "English collocations".

    Good luck!!
     
  15. DearPrudence

    DearPrudence Dépêche Mod (AL, Sp-En mod)

    IdF
    French (lower Normandy)
    Yes, like I said, five steps and I know it exists.
    So I am not missing anything; there is no direct link from the dictionaries?
     
  16. Peterdg

    Peterdg Senior Member

    Belgium
    Dutch - Belgium
    Then I must have misinterpreted your remark. What do you mean with a "direct link"?:confused:
     
  17. DearPrudence

    DearPrudence Dépêche Mod (AL, Sp-En mod)

    IdF
    French (lower Normandy)
    A direct/visible link from the dictionary page like those at the top of the page:

    in Spanish | in French | in Italian | English synonyms | in context | images

    or at the bottom:

    Look up "dive" at Merriam-Webster
    Look up "dive" at dictionary.com

    In other languages: Spanish | French | Italian | Portuguese | German | Swedish | Dutch | Russian | Polish | Romanian | Czech | Greek | Turkish | Chinese | Japanese | Korean | Arabic

    (you don't only need to click several times, you also need to retype your word as well)
     
  18. Peterdg

    Peterdg Senior Member

    Belgium
    Dutch - Belgium
    Ah, stupid of me:oops:. I was so proud that I found it in the drop-down menu:).
     
  19. mkellogg Administrator

    South Florida
    English - US
    I am excited to see such a positive reception to this. :)
    Not yet. I wanted to get it published and introduced it to you all first. Thanksgiving got in the way a little, but the next step now if to link to it in a smart manner. You all will soon tire of seeing links to it all over the place.
     
  20. Quique Alfaro

    Quique Alfaro Senior Member

    Santa Fe, Argentina
    castellano
    Hola:

    I have been browsing it and ... I love it! :thumbsup:
     
  21. Wandering JJ

    Wandering JJ Senior Member

    England
    British English
    I've had a look at it and I'm sure it will be of immense value! :thumbsup:
     
  22. chileno

    chileno Senior Member

    Las Vegas, Nv. USA
    Castellano - Chile
    Thank you Mkellog! :)
     
  23. DearPrudence

    DearPrudence Dépêche Mod (AL, Sp-En mod)

    IdF
    French (lower Normandy)
  24. mkellogg Administrator

    South Florida
    English - US
    I am surprised that make and crack a joke didn't make it in the list.

    We will add a link to our "suggestions" page so that people can recommend improvements.
     
  25. Amapolas

    Amapolas Senior Member

    Buenos Aires
    Castellano rioplatense
    Thank you, Mr Kellogg! This looks like a great addition to the WR resource family. And no easy feat to accomplish, I presume.
    I'll go check it out right away.
     
  26. Amapolas

    Amapolas Senior Member

    Buenos Aires
    Castellano rioplatense
    Wow, I'd never noticed the 'English usage' feature until I read your post. I use the synonyms all the time, though, in both English and Spanish.
     
  27. Sil1963

    Sil1963 Senior Member

    Buenos Aires, Argentina
    Spanish- Argentina
    GENIAL!! OHHH. GREAT!!:D
     
  28. WildWest

    WildWest Senior Member

    Istanbul
    Turkish
    Finally.

    I was looking for a reliable dictionary dealing with collocations, and that one seems very useful at first sight.

    Thank you!

    Edit: In addition, I hope this feature will be soon brought into use in the mobile app as well.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2017
  29. Maria Clara Torres Member

    Spanish Colombia
    I absolutely love this dictionary.:oops:
     
  30. mkellogg Administrator

    South Florida
    English - US
    Thanks! We worked hard on it and think that it gives great information. I am still trying to figure out how to get people to use it more...
     
  31. Amapolas

    Amapolas Senior Member

    Buenos Aires
    Castellano rioplatense
    How about posting your above announcement in the English-language forums?
    You've got to have some influence with the moderators so you won't get deleted for going 'beyond the scope of the forum'... :p
     
  32. mkellogg Administrator

    South Florida
    English - US
    Hi, Amapolas. Yea, the problem is that I came up with the rules (well, the moderators and I did) and it looks bad if I break my own rules!

    I think the EO members will find out about it. That isn't a problem. I just need the millions of people who use the dictionaries to click through to it. After my last post, I did realize a better way to show people the collocations. I hope to have it up and running in the next couple of weeks.
     
  33. JeSuisSnob

    JeSuisSnob Moderator

    Mexico City
    Mexican Spanish
    We already posted a sticky in Sp-En Vocabulary, but perhaps it is a good idea to put a sticky in all the Sp-En forums:).

    Collocation dictionaries are a very, very useful tool for translators.
     
  34. JeSuisSnob

    JeSuisSnob Moderator

    Mexico City
    Mexican Spanish
    OK. Now each forum and subforum of Spanish-English has its own sticky:).
     
  35. Wandering JJ

    Wandering JJ Senior Member

    England
    British English
    If it has its own sticky (which I believed meant it would stay in No. 1 position), then why is it is position 13?
     
  36. JeSuisSnob

    JeSuisSnob Moderator

    Mexico City
    Mexican Spanish
    I just checked all the stickies we have in Sp-En and all of them seem to be in the right place. Could you report the one that you saw in position 13, Wandering? Thank you.
     
  37. efriend

    efriend Member

    Southern California
    Spanish Mexico & English USA
    Great! Can't wait to check it out! Thanks for all that hard work :thumbsup:
     
  38. Vanda

    Vanda Moderesa de Beagá

    Belo Horizonte, BRASIL
    Português/ Brasil
    Maravilha! How come I hadn't seen it before? This is my biggest issue with English. I need this tool a looot.
     
  39. CharlesTESOL

    CharlesTESOL Senior Member

    Spain
    U.S. English
    Great news! Thank you all so much!!!
     
  40. gotitadeleche Senior Member

    Texas, U.S.A.
    U.S.A. English
    I just discovered this today. Awesome! Thank you so much!
     

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