"As I have said" or "as I had said""

[Han Xiaopu]

Suddenly I'm I'm just confused about these two expressions. When and how to use them properly?

Can I say, for example：

"As I have said I love english so much."
But in what a situation I should use" I had said" ?

Past perfect tense or present perfect tense are really confusing to me😂

 

[The Newt]

In theory you could say something like "As I had said to John before we had lunch...," but in American English we would normally simplify this to "As I said to John..."

"As I had said" without a time expression following it would be fairly uncommon.

 

[Keith Bradford]

1. "As I have said I love English so much." = I've often said it in the past.
2. "As I had said I love English so much." = I said it once in the past, but then something happened to make me change my mind perhaps.
3. "As I said I love English so much." = I simply said it, no conditions attached

Normally, there's no need for anything more complicated than no.3.

 

[Han Xiaopu]

You mean there should be a past time expression after "as I had said". Okay now I know it.

Now I have another question about what tenses should be used in the main clauses after these two expressions.

"As I have said" must be followed by the presnt tense？ For example:

As I have said, My mom and dad fight often in my family.

and "As I had said" must be followed by the past tense？For example：

As I had said before we met, my mom and dad fought often in my family.

Can I say "As I have said my mom and dad fought a lot in my family？ and vise versa?（ I presume that there are no problems with this expression, but I'm not sure.）

 

[The Newt]

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Now I have another question about what tenses should be used in the main clauses after these two expressions.

"As I have said" must be followed by the present tense？ [...]

No, the clauses are entirely independent. You could say, for example, "As I [have] said, I will be late tomorrow."

 

[Keith Bradford]

There is no grammatical rule about what tense is used after "As I (have/had) said". It depends entirely on the facts of the case. Even the future can be followed by the present or the past: "As I will say in my talk tonight, Queen Anne is dead. She died in 1714."

 

[Han Xiaopu]

Okay~So it's safe to say, "as I had said before we met, My mom and dad always fought a lot."（Because they fought with each other in the past. ）

It's also safe to say, "As I had said before before we met, my mom and dad always fight a lot." （Because they are always fighting from the past till the present and I I knew then this bad relation wouldn't be stopped.）

 

[The Newt]

Okay~So it's safe to say, "as I had said before we met, My mom and dad always fought a lot."（Because they fought with each other in the past. ）

It's also safe to say, "As I had said before before we met, my mom and dad always fight a lot." （Because they are always fighting from the past till the present and I I knew then this bad relation wouldn't be stopped.）

There's really no need for anything but "As I said..."

 

[Han Xiaopu]

There's really no need for anything but "As I said..."

You mean people always say "as I said". Maybe I just split hairs about it.👌🏻👌🏻🙊

 

[The Newt]

You mean people always say "as I said". Maybe I just split hairs about it.👌🏻👌🏻🙊

"As I said" or in some cases "As I was saying."

 

[Han Xiaopu]

What's the difference between them？

 

[Cagey]

"As I was saying" introduces a new topic and needs a different thread.
Please see this previous thread: As I <was saying><said> last night

You are welcome to add a question to that thread.