comma after 'etc.' [abbreviation]: strippers, bongs, etc., and guns

Discussion in 'English Only' started by wizard8451, Aug 29, 2007.

  1. wizard8451 Senior Member

    Mexico, Spanish
    If 'etc.' does not end a sentence, should you use a comma - i.e. "The room was full of party decorations, including strippers, bongs, etc., and machine guns.
  2. GreenWhiteBlue

    GreenWhiteBlue Senior Member

    The City of New York
    USA - English
    You might use a comma after an "et cetera" in mid sentence. However, since in your sentence you are already using the open-ended word "includes", the "etc." is unnecessary.

    I will also point out that most people would not think of strippers, bongs, or machine guns as "party decorations"!!
  3. river Senior Member

    U.S. English
    Yes, the abbreviation etc. is traditionally both preceded and followed by a comma.

    Lions, tigers, bears, etc., in transit must be confined to cages.
  4. Harry Batt

    Harry Batt Senior Member

    USA English
    Where is the lead-pipe rule which states that you cannot end a sentence with etc.? I do it all the time except when I end a series of names with etal.

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