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It was "concubine"c1430 Lydgate tr. Bochas Fall of Princes iii. xxiv. 95 a, Because she had had another concubyne.
?1529 R. Hyrde tr. J. L. Vives Instr. Christen Woman ii. iv. sig. b.ijv, Thou haste stomacke inough to handle the vyles and scabbes of thy concubyne.
c1536 Indictment Anne Boleyn (Trench) , Her adulterers and concubines.
No, the word concubine is no longer used in English to refer to men, and doesn't appear to have been used that way for some 500 or more years. In current usage it only refers to a woman, and male concubine makes no sense. (would you write male woman?)So, we must say 'a male concubine' ?
I do not know. What situation of concubinage are you describing? When is this? What culture is it?So, 'concubine' can be a man or a woman living in concubinage.
Am I right ?
There are no (or very few) male concubines in modern western culture therefore there is no word and there does not need to be a word. It's like asking what is the word for pigs with wings. It's interesting to think about, but it's not really useful.I'm talking about modern western culture.
Catamite is an old-fashioned and uncommon word, (I can remember it from "The Trial of Oscar Wilde") and, like 99% of words and phrases referring to homosexuality, it is pejorative.catamite, n. A boy kept for homosexual practices; the passive partner in anal intercourse.
1601 P. Holland tr. Pliny Hist. World I. 111 Called Cinedopolis, by reason of certain Catamites and shamefull baggages that king Alexander the Great left there.
It's not just old-fashioned. Concubinage refers to a specific and quite in-equal relationship between the two people.'Concubine' and 'concubinage' are old-fashioned.
Only one person in the relationship is the concubine.Concubinage is an interpersonal relationship in which a person engages in an ongoing relationship (usually matrimonially oriented) with another person to whom they are not or cannot be married; the inability to marry is usually due to a difference in social status or economic condition. Historically, the relationship involved a man in a higher status position, usually with a legally sanctioned wife, who maintains a second household with the lesser "wife". The woman in such a relationship is referred to as a concubine.
Fabiola - we are trying to help you but you do not answer any of our questions. You already asked this exact question in post #21.Is it possible to say 'man in concubinage' ?
No, and for the reasons I gave. Forget trying to make "concubine" fit a male. It is not going to workIs it possible to say 'man in concubinage' ?
Source: Essay on Concubines and ConcubinageNow in the early twenty-first century, as increasing numbers of men and women in Euro-America choose to live together without marrying, the word concubinage has taken on new legal, social, and cultural meanings. In France concubinage is the official term for the cohabitation of heterosexual and (since 1998) homosexual couples. But concubinage in other societies outside Euro-America probably continues to carry a social stigma.
...provide the context we keep asking for.
My suggestionMy sentence:
A concubin is a man who lives in concubinage with his concubine.
Fabiola, the problem we're having is that:My sentence:
A concubin is a man who lives in a concubinage with his concubine.