decydować

[Jana337]

Przykładem może być księżna Masako Owada, która wyszła za mąż za następcę tronu Japonii, gdy miała 30 lat. Gdy zdecydowała się urodzić dziecko, okazało się, że nie może zajść w ciążę. Source

I came across the word "decydować". Is it a genuine Polish word or a recent anglicism?

Dzięki

Jana

 

[_sandra_]

Hi Jana,

decydować - is not a recent anglicism, it derives from Latin (decido),
and has been used in Polish for centuries I suppose
(Can't find any additional info)

Dzięki

Nie ma sprawy

Take care,
Sandra

 

[Thomas1]

decydować - is not a recent anglicism, it derives from Latin (decido),
and has been used in Polish for centuries I suppose
(Can't find any additional info)

Just to get it clear , decydować comes from Latin decidere, whereas English to decide has a little more complicated roots, it comes from Old French decider which was taken from Latin decidere.

Latin decido is a root for Polish decyzja. English decision comes from Middle French decision taken from Latin decisionem.

Thomas

 

[_sandra_]

Just to get it clear

Heh, I'm getting used to it.. Ooops, Jana, sorry for the mess and Thomas thanks for correction(s)

PS. I took 'decido' from PWN dict and what I thought is that they were giving the first person sing. indicativus praesentis.. Oi, my Latin lessons seem to be such a long time ago...

Sandra

 

[Jana337]

No problem, Sandra I wasn't particularly interested in the etymology of the word (but I am glad it was provided. What I was after was the influence of English on Polish.

Is decydować the first choice for "to decide"? The Czech word is "rozhodovat".

Jana

 

[_sandra_]

IMO it would be the first. Other: postanowić

e.g. you could say:

Gdy postanowiła urodzić dziecko, okazało się że nie może zajść w ciążę

Mind you can say:
Gdy postanowiła urodzić dziecko = Gdy postanowiła, że urodzi dziecko...
(it requires either infinitive or subordinate sentence)
or: Gdy zdecydowała się urodzić dziecko = Gdy zdecydowała, że urodzi

Oi, let me know if it's not clear
A dopo, Sandra

 

[Jana337]

IMO it would be the first. Other: postanowić

e.g. you could say:

Mind you can say:
Gdy postanowiła urodzić dziecko = Gdy postanowiła, że urodzi dziecko...
(it requires either infinitive or subordinate sentence)
or: Gdy zdecydowała się urodzić dziecko = Gdy zdecydowała, że urodzi

Oi, let me know if it's not clear
A dopo, Sandra

It is absolutely clear because the structures are identical in Czech. Just vocab sometimes deviates.
(Well, we would say Když se rozhodla porodit dítě - se cannot be elsewhere)

Jana

 

[Thomas1]

IMO it would be the first. Other: postanowić

e.g. you could say:

Mind you can say:
Gdy postanowiła urodzić dziecko = Gdy postanowiła, że urodzi dziecko...
(it requires either infinitive or subordinate sentence)
or: Gdy zdecydowała się urodzić dziecko = Gdy zdecydowała, że urodzi

exactly my sentimetns

I think it's just a matter of idiosyncrasy which one you use.

Thomas