Anonymous said:I'd like to open a glossary, but I have never used a spreadsheet, and don't want to volunteer to manage one. What should I do?
Hmmm. Good point Venus!VenusEnvy said:Will the constant attaching of a spreadsheet deplete my attachments space?
I have to disagree.cuchuflete said:Should I add 'colmillos' before replying? Or...perhaps take them off.
Cross-posting occurs in V7, V8, V9, with a word deleted and replaced.
The manager will have to look at versions 9,8,7, and 6 to find what has been changed. If they are not numbered, the time stamp of the posts will allow the manager to know the sequence in which they were created.
Neither the timestamps nor the numbers will tell the manager which "source" file was used as the basis for versions 7,8,9. All of them may have been based on version 4 or 5! Version 6 may be based on version 3.
VenusEnvy said:A million pardons for the abundance of questions, but I have another...
I began a furniture spreadsheet. As the one who began the thread, it's my job to continuously update it, right? Yes and No. Just check to see that subsequent copies contain all the previous additions. If things get scrambled because 4 people are posting at the same time, you may want to update your master copy..on your computer, to contain all the additions, and then post the updated 'master'. Ok. But, I can't simply alter the original that I added in the thread. I would need to alter the spreadsheet that is on my hard drive on my computer, and then re-attach a newer version, right? I suggest you start with the most complete copy in the thread, copy/paste any columns it may be missing, and make that the updated 'master' you post. Do whatever gives a comprehensive result, and is the least work for you, the manager.
Can I edit my master copy as an attachment?
OlivierG said:I have to disagree.
The key point is: your file has to be numbered according to the version you start working from, and not according to the last number at the time you post it.
- Bob starts to work on it, by adding a "Klingon" column
- Peter starts to work on it too, by adding a "Venusian" column.
- Peter posts his file, numbered v7 (the version he downloaded +1 )
- Bob posts his file, numbered v7 (the version he downloaded +1 )
- Then 5 posters continue to work from the last file (Bob's), posting up to version 12.
When the manager reads the thread after three days of vacation, he sees immediately that the Peter's (or Bob's) changes can be absent in v12, because Bob and Peter's files have the same number.
If the files are not numbered, he has to download the 7 files one by one, being very careful because they have all the same name, and to see in each of them what changes have been made, and whether they have been kept in the next one... Tough job, really. On a popular topic, I wouldn't dare manage this.
mkellogg said:Hmmm. Good point Venus!
I've just doubled the allowed attachment space to 200,000 KB. I need to investigate how we can keep these attachments from counting against the limit, too.
As soon as two posts have the same file number, the manager knows that at least one of them has not been taken into account in the next posts.cuchuflete said:If nobody ever makes a mistake in following your proposed numbering scheme, life will be a little easier.
What happens if...
peter v7+>George V8
Georgev8=> Oscar and Dolores and Fred Vs 9
HenriqueV=> Matilde and Olivier and Benjamin Vs9
Will it not still require the manager to review multiple files?
There may be many copies titled V12, half of which repeat a mistaken deletion from v7.
Might we solve (!) this by turning on 'track changes' so that any change to an existing column is immediately visible?
VenusEnvy said:Every time I open a spreadsheet to view/edit it, I am prompted to enter a Username and Password for the Network. Is this a WR thing, or is it just my computer? . . .
Ok, Oliver, let's discuss.OlivierG said:I don't think it would be a good idea. But why not to discuss about it in the discussion thread?
Two translations for the same word would need two separate lines, IMO.Phryne said:Ok, Oliver, let's discuss.
1- I think that adding an article before the word helps us t understand better the word's gender. Basically, it came to my mind when I added two translation for the same word, one masculine and one feminine. You don't agree on this? Why? What do you suggest?
I agree at 100% with this one!2- I also think that we need a subforum considering that this is very experimental. So far, we are discussing 500 different topics in one thread only. Are my concern, then, off-topic because I don't follow the initial question?
VenusEnvy said:I know that the order of the Spanish vocab and grammar forums were switched to prevent new foreros from posting translation questions in the grammar forum. Perhaps, this new glossary forum should/could be relocated as well? Any thoughts? . . .
cuchuflete said:I just looked at the latest state of the 'head' file, and I feel really silly.
Why do we need to repeat the POS for each language? Isn't our purpose to translate nouns for nouns, verbs for verbs? If I give a Portuguese adjective, and someone tries to offer a verb in another language, that would be a bad translation, I think.
Can we eliminate all but one POS column?
Benjy said:just one thing with that. i have noticed that with en fr translations fr often prefers a noun whereas english plumps for a verb. i have had some serious headaches trying to get parts of speech to match in the past. lets not chuck them just yet. please?
Yes,absolutely! Even though it may not be the most correct--someone may have deleted entries....Should be we adding to the newest (and most correct) version of the spreadsheet?
Her thoughts are... "What on Earth made me start the "furniture" thread?! sniff, sniff :'(cuchuflete said:You raise a really interesting point. If a manager adds a consolidated spreadsheet that includes all the additions of all previous versions, should we then delete the older spreadsheets to reduce the chance of more mixups?
I was thinking that one spreadsheet should suffice, and in fact, would eliminate confusion regarding which one to pay attention to.cuchuflete said:You raise a really interesting point. If a manager adds a consolidated spreadsheet that includes all the additions of all previous versions, should we then delete the older spreadsheets to reduce the chance of more mixups?