Not to mention that the ancestral countries still "claim" them. I can't count how many Irish-American inventors, politicians etc. that Irish people would be proud to claim as "Irish" even though they were, for all intents and purposes, 100 per cent American. I wonder whether the Irish are not more devoted to JFK's memory than Americans are.
So, this is my point: a political play from USA and the other countries that do the same: mainly if the person is someone proeminent in any area, or like I know some families here, to send the boys to war as target for bombs. Please don't take me badly here, what I mean when they force a person to give up their original citizenship they have all political interests, I don't see the same with double citizenship here, if I am making myself understood. I don't want to sound offensive here, just pointing what politics are like.
How many works did Nabokov write in Russian and how many in English?
Ola Vanda. All I can do is repeat that I have double citizenship, I don't hide it, and it is seen as normal. The embassy knows it, when I fly I declare it, etc. No one has ever pressured me to take an oath (on either side). When I become famous I'm not sure who will fight to claim me
In art museums on both sides of the Atlantic I see American (born Russia), French (worked in Spain), all sorts of combinations. For Picasso it always says French (born in Spain). However, on rue Alexander Graham Bell, not far from where I live, it reads American scientist, but no mention of UK.
I never took an oath but I was not nationalized. I know too many American bi-nationals (personally not with a Brazilian combination though) for it not to be an accepted practice.
You DO realize that a person can live in the U.S. for a lifetime and never become a citizen, right? It is a choice to become a citizen that requires classes, a test and an oath. No one is forced to do so. You can be what is called "a resident alien" for life. You can own property, run a company and do all your normal daily business. You can't hold certain public offices. So if you are concerned about politics you can choose simply to not engage in them by not becoming a citizen. I get the impression from your comments that people are forced to become citizens here. Not at all.
I just found this information in a link from the page you posted.
Now thankfully it's clear.
Ah! I didn't know that part ''you can ask to omit that part of the oath if you want to retain your previous citizenship as well.''
A friend from my city in Canada moved to the US and had to renounce her Canadian citizenship to get an American one, but afterward she went and applied for and was granted her Canadian nationality again, because we allow dual citizenship up here.
That's interesting, how long did it take to your friend to re apply to her canadian citizenship? was it fast and easy?
My niece was born in Brazil of two U.S. citizens. When she turned 18 she had to declare her citizenship. I don't know if it was a USA requirement or a Brazilian requirement. She declared as a U.S. citizen. That was 14 years ago. Maybe the laws have changed since then.
I can bet it is USA requirements. I think it is so ''antipático'' having to renounce one citizenship to become American! Brazilians are allowed to have 2 citizenships. Nowadays I am Italian too, would NEVER renounce my Brazilian citizenship for any other in the world!
She might have agreed with you if she had not left Brazil when she was four months old.
Lots of Irish citizens are also American citizens; I've never heard of it causing an issue.
There are issues actually. When you are in a foreign country and you get in trouble you can apply to your consulate for assistance. With a dual citizenship you can not apply for assistance at either of the countries where you hold citizenship. Additionally you cannot hold any state department positions, even though the language fluency might make you well-equipped for the jobs.
But that wouldn't make sense, unless I've picked you up wrong. It would reduce dual passport holders to, essentially, stateless persons while in foreign countries. If I were a dual American-Irish citizen, I would, whilst in America, be afforded all the statutory rights due to an U.S. passport holder. And vice versa in Ireland. In a third country, I could apply for representation at either embassy/consulate (EU citizens can apply for representation by any other EU state while abroad).
Hope I haven't offended the family. This was not the intention. And hers is just another story.
I was reading about such a case. The applicant held dual citizenship and was applying to the US State Department. They rejected his application because he could not be given diplomatic immunity (and protect state secrets, I guess). He offered to renounce his citizenship but the State Department said they could only use the information that was available at the time the application was made. No job. I will see if I can find that reference.
No offense taken. In fact, when she visited there with her parents I suggested she run to the Brazilian consulate and seek asylum. She was not yet 18 and was a ward of her parents, but as a citizen of Brazil she could assert herself.Hope I haven't offended the family. This was not the intention. And hers is just another story.
By the way, I'll try to find the law about foreigners born here. There is something about it somewhere...
Legally, a US citizen is obligated to enter the US with a US passport, regardless of other nationalities.
and leave using the other passport. That's what they have me do.
This is a very good question, but I'm afraid I have no answer. Maybe countries are only interested in knowing who is entering, not leaving? All I can say is that it works that way. Actually the airlines encourage/ enforce this system. On the times that I have inadvertently decided to show another passport, they ask for visa/return tickets etc. and when I explain the situation they always tell me (us - as it is the same with my friends) to use the passport always in the direction you are travelling to avoid being hassled. So overtime that has become routine.
Does the U.S. give you an exit stamp? I don't believe it does.
I just had a look. No, I don't have any exit stamps in my passport.
Never knew it existed until now.
It only exists online now. It used to be the white form that CBP would staple into your passport upon arrival.
I remember the blue cards you had to fill out on the plane prior to landing, but they just took them from me, never stapled them into my passport. I go in on a US passport though. So I avoid all that paperwork.
How was it replaced?
According to the list, dual German-Brazilian citizenship is not possible, but in fact it is, depending on the circumstances. This citizenship thing has so many nuances that such a list is bound to have some mistakes.
I have dual UK/Italian citizenship and cannot avail of the British Embassy here in Italy if I am in any sort of 'trouble'.
I agree , my oldest daughter was born in an Army base in Panama and she have dual citizenship. No one have ever told her that she have to renounce to the Panamanian one.
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Not really a "dual citizen" now is he? He'd have to give up one to become one.
Trial, I guess. But it sounds awful !Not really a "dual citizen" now is he? He'd have to give up one to become one.
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If The US does not allow dual citizenship but other countries do, does that mean that an american citizen not born in the United States that was naturalized in the States and renounced his citizenship from let's say Brazil (for example), he can still go back to his mother country and claim to be a citizen of that country while not in the US? or this is a rule that only applies while living in the US?
Hi, Pack, In the Wikipedia article you cited, it says "...the United States allow
I missed that. But of course the reason the US allows dual citizenship is that we tax worldwide. So someone with a dual citizenship living, say, in Paris would be tax-liable in the USA. Even if they never visit the USA at all.
