Please don't accuse me of failing to read Machlii5's post carefully. She cited Pink Floyd and said that the double negation in question clearly indicates lack of education. I respectfully disagree. I feel that Pink Floyd's usage is not uneducated. Instead it is deliberately ironic, as is any reference to those lyrics. This is what I tried to clarify. I don't understand why you feel I am explaining her own comment back to her.jann, you need to re-read Machlii5's post, since your reply just explains Machlii5's own point back to him!
The phrase "We don't need no birth control" is without doubt a simple pun on Pink Floyd's famous lyrics. It is not an example of how to use English, nor would you ever see that formulation in written English, if not for the cultural reference.
Hi, maybe I should have written “is there to indicate...“ in order not to be misunderstood. Of course the “we“ in the song doesn't refer to Pink Floyd themselves but to those youngsters who feel restricted by the expectations of society.She cited Pink Floyd and said that the double negation in question clearly indicates lack of education. I respectfully disagree. I feel that Pink Floyd's usage is not uneducated.
This is exactly right. Where I grew up the double negative was probably used by 50-75% of speakers (rural Somerset in South-West of England) - it was extremely common.This double negation is (very) colloquial, and is condemned across the board in proper written English... by "grammarians" and by the grammatically uninitiated alike. Although it is not uncommon in some regional speech patterns, and although it can be used as a deliberate stylistic choice on occasion, it is widely considered a sign of uneducated speech. A non-native who is learning English should avoid the double negative. If you wish to emphasize your negation (such as described by Toban in post #2 above), add the word "any."
no more ne serait pas davantage acceptable en anglais "standard".I don't want no scrub
ou alors cela pourrait être un raccourci pour "no more" ?
Okay. Could you tell me why they still speak like this, given the fact that it is non-standard?" We don't want no cat " is
or any other politically correct description for "non-standard, non-grammatical, incorrect". People definitely do speak this way. And other people understand them. But it's not educated English. We don't want a cat, we don't want any cats.