How do they label Flemmish a Dialect of Dutch? Why is it not the other way around? Was Nederlands the standard till the Belgians became independent?
So do the Dutch on the border with Belgium speak the same as the Belgians do on the border? What is taught in school?
Is it actually French or Wallon that is spoken in Belgium?
Depends on what you mean by 'Dutch', I think. If you mean by 'Dutch' a collection of language varieties which share features XYZ, then the answer is yes.How do they label Flemmish a Dialect of Dutch? Why is it not the other way around? Was Nederlands the standard till the Belgians became independent? Thanks
In other words, everything is being done in order to complicate the life of a language learner
So when the Belgians and Dutch politicans speak with one another, it would be in their own dialect of Dutch, but it's comparable to say Tony Blair talking with Georgy boy
That would be a partial solution...I think part of the confusion is the fact that in English the word "Dutch" is used to refer both to the language and to the Dutch nationality.
It would be more useful to refer to the language as "Netherlandic," and to "Dutch" and "Flemish" as two large dialectal groups (cf. "American" and "British"), each consisting of many smaller dialects.
Unfortunately, however, the term "Netherlandic" is not at all common, so I fear that confusion will continue.
"There are no linguistic criteria for differentiating between a language and a dialect (or vernacular or patois)."In some cases, dialect DOES mean language. Many people call the indigenous languages of Mexico dialects, without the intention of saying they are related to Spanish.
Flemish= having relation to or be proper of Dutch speaking Belgium or its inhabitants.Van Dale:
Vlaams = van, betrekking hebbend op, uit, eigen aan Nederlandstalig België of zijn bewoners
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