I've read in a French text book that <<de>> preceeds the name of a feminine country starting with a consonant and <<d'>> preceeds the name of a country (masculine or femnine) starting with a vowel. Therefore, wouldn't it be proper to say <<je viens d'Angleterre>> instead of << je viens de l'Angleterre?>> If no, why so?

Which one is correct to say: <<Je suis partie en Angleterre>> ou <<Je suis partie à l'Angleterre>>. If the first sentence is correct, is there an incidence where <<...à l'angleterre>> would be used? If yes, please me an example.

In what instance (if any) would the phrase <<...à la France>> be used?

Moderator note: Multiple threads have been merged to create this one. See also our language resources about countries as well as the following threads:
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de (la) France, de l'/d'Angleterre, etc. - article devant les noms de pays après "de" ? - forum Français Seulement

 

Bonsoir !

The following link provided by Aupick at once, will surely absorbs your doubts.
I'm sure someone will post an interesting explanation.

 

Bonjour! I've heard some people say, "Je viens de France" and others say "Je viens de la France." Are both correct? I always thought that the "la" in the second sentence is not required. If so, does this rule apply to all feminine countries? Examples would include "Je viens de Belgique," "Je viens de Suisse, etc. Merci bien!

 

As far as I am concerned, I would only say "Je viens de France" (no article).

 

je viens de la France= j'arrive de la France
je viens de France= je suis français (ou au moins résident)

 

Yes, just as I suspected, no article. Merci bien!

 

Wow. That's a good site.

It made all sense to me until I came across one of my exercises in the French book.

So you have to say: Il vient de Bretagne (feminine)
or you have to say: Il vient du Canada. (masculine)

All good up to here until the book said: Il vient de LA Cote d'Ivoire. But why that now?

Also, the website above with the link says "Il vient de Cote d'Ivoire" but the book says LA, so is the book wrong?

Thanks for your help!

 

2 1/2 years later, I am not sure lilliputthegreat will still be interested in my remark ,
but for the occurrence of "à l'Angleterre", there is the likes of :
"Ces documents ont été rendus à l'Angleterre."

klod-

 

Bonjour,

Est-ce qu'on dit "Je viens de Canada" ou "Je viens du Canada". Egalement, Je viens de la France/de France? Encore plus, "au sud de la France" ou "au sud de France"? Ce sont des questions grammaticals qui me laissent perplexe depuis un bon bout de temps.

Merci par avance.

 

I think it depends on the place. For example, I'd say "Je viens de France" but "Je viens du Canada". I think it's a masculine-feminine thing.

However, it's easiest just to say "Je suis canadien/français."

 

Why not "en" here?

 

Oh I think I get it now. If you have a verb which is followed by 'à', then it will be "à l'Angleterre" otherwise not.

 

si le pays est du genre féminim on dit : Je viens de France, Je viens de Slovaquie, Je viens de Colombie
et si le pays est du genre masculin on dit : Je viens du Canada, je viens du Vénézuéla, je viens du Libéria etc. ...
c´est correct ce que j´ai écrit ?

 

I'm confused by these: Je viens de Australie. Je viens d'Inde. Je viens de Indonésie. Je viens d'Ukraine. What's the rule with vowels? Usually d' but why sometimes is it de?

 

Je viens de Australie. Je viens d'Inde. Je viens de Indonésie. Je viens d'Ukraine.
e a = deux voyelles >>> hiatus, même remarque pour e i.
Il faut élider le "de" >>> d'Australie, d'Indonésie

 

de l' / de la :
<< je viens de l'Angleterre?>>
mais "il vient de l'Angleterre profonde".

 

So..... following this rule would one say "il vient des Seychelles", "il vient d'Haiti?"