get to know other beaches
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We use "know" a bit differently in English than the translated word in Portuguese or Spanish. It's much more than just visiting a place.
That's arguably true, pcy0308, if by "more natural" you mean "more likely to be heard." But Coralinna's version sounds perfectly natural to me. She's using "get to know some other beaches" in the same way that somebody might use "get acquainted with some other beaches." It really isn't unnatural to use a figurative expression like Coralinna's in a remark about her plan for some beaches.
Does it sound as though Coralinna's remark may be influenced by Portuguese? Yes. Does that make it sound unnatural? No. I don't think so.
Does it sound as though Coralinna's remark may be influenced by Portuguese? Yes. Does that make it sound unnatural? No. I don't think so.
Hello,
I would say:
Go to some other beaches
Visit some other beaches
These verbs convey travel, whereas “get” by itself leaves out the idea of movement.
-I’m planning to spend a whole month at Myrtle Beach.
-Wow, then you’ll get to know that area really well!
I would say:
Go to some other beaches
Visit some other beaches
These verbs convey travel, whereas “get” by itself leaves out the idea of movement.
-I’m planning to spend a whole month at Myrtle Beach.
-Wow, then you’ll get to know that area really well!
I can't imagine anyone saying either of those things in any context much less as the answer to the question "Where will you go after that?"
If you believe me, then you must believe that it is unnatural to me. Generally, I haven't previously experienced being in disagreement with other people on what is and isn't unnatural, so I assume that there are other people who find it unnatural. Even if the sentence were natural on it's own, it's a bit of a non-sequitur in the context which is "unnatural" as well.
For what it's worth, the issue of "know" a place is a common translation error in English vs Portuguese/Spanish.
as a Spanish example, see: Conoce Tegucigalpa
In this case the imperative "Know" means "come visit."
as a Spanish example, see: Conoce Tegucigalpa
In this case the imperative "Know" means "come visit."
I do. I imagine that you posted your thoughts on the subject in an effort to let Coralinna know that you thought her remark was unnatural and that the context she suggested isn't convincing. I wouldn't have responded to your first post at all if you had not quoted my response in that post. I interpret such quotes to be a valid reason for replying to whoever posted the quote.
My apologies, sdgraham. I can certainly understand your exasperation with what may look like a needless exchange to you. But I feel compelled to respond to posts that seem to be addressed to me because they contain a quote of some opinion I gave earlier.
By the way, I consider your comment in post #9 to be a comment that was well worth making. I'm sure that somebody will be interested in knowing that this is considered an error if a translator chooses the wrong meaning or wrong context to convey the original meaning in the source language.
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Hello all,
I must second pachanga7, Myridon and sdgraham here. Given the provided conversation segment and the question "where will go you after that," it is much more natural to use "go" or "visit" rather than "get to know," (which is not grammatically incorrect). There is no mention of the expression "get to know a place or a city" being unnatural. However, using "go" or "visit" as a response to the specific question above seems like much more natural answer for me.
I must second pachanga7, Myridon and sdgraham here. Given the provided conversation segment and the question "where will go you after that," it is much more natural to use "go" or "visit" rather than "get to know," (which is not grammatically incorrect). There is no mention of the expression "get to know a place or a city" being unnatural. However, using "go" or "visit" as a response to the specific question above seems like much more natural answer for me.
Thanks for sharing your latest, possibly last, assessment of the topic, pcy0308. This assessment gives Coralinna more data that she can use in making her own final assessment about the value that her remark has in English. I am untroubled by the opinions of others when it comes to a subjective decision about the natural quality of a phrase that is influenced by another language. I didn't expect to find many opinions in this thread that agreed with mine.
I hope that Coralinna returns to this thread to tell us what she thinks after reading all the comments.
We don't have adequate background. If, in the original conversation, "here" is a beach, the answer "I’ll probably get to know some other beaches" would seem perfectly reasonable to me. The only thing wrong, for me, would be the omission of "some".
I see that owlman5 added "some" in his comments - possibly without noticing that he did so.
By the way, I have no knowledge of Portuguese and Spanish other than how to say "hello", "please" and "thank you", and to order a couple of beers or a glass of wine.
I see that owlman5 added "some" in his comments - possibly without noticing that he did so.
By the way, I have no knowledge of Portuguese and Spanish other than how to say "hello", "please" and "thank you", and to order a couple of beers or a glass of wine.