Greeting
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You can use
والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
at the end of your posts.
You can also use it at the beginning, without the initial و.
والسلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
at the end of your posts.
You can also use it at the beginning, without the initial و.
Yes, with the corrections above.SofiaB said:
It's also important to note that these are two separate greetings, one on either side of the و.
Thanks a lot to you all for your answers.
I am not a Muslim so I want my greetings to be as religiously neutral as possible. I shall keep only the assalâmu 3alaykum part.
From my study of classical Arabic I learned that I should say assalâmu 3alayka to one male person, a. 3alayki to one female person, a. 3alaykumâ to two persons (male or female??) and a. 3alaykum to several persons.
Moreover I heard that under the influence of Western languages a form of respect has emerged that uses assalâmu 3alaykum not only for a group but also for one person. Is that true?
I also know that when you meet people and greet them assalâmu 3alaykum they answer by reversing the greeting and saying wa 3alaykumu ssalâmu. Do I need to reverse the greeting at the end of a written post?
I am not a Muslim so I want my greetings to be as religiously neutral as possible. I shall keep only the assalâmu 3alaykum part.
From my study of classical Arabic I learned that I should say assalâmu 3alayka to one male person, a. 3alayki to one female person, a. 3alaykumâ to two persons (male or female??) and a. 3alaykum to several persons.
Moreover I heard that under the influence of Western languages a form of respect has emerged that uses assalâmu 3alaykum not only for a group but also for one person. Is that true?
I also know that when you meet people and greet them assalâmu 3alaykum they answer by reversing the greeting and saying wa 3alaykumu ssalâmu. Do I need to reverse the greeting at the end of a written post?
Although "as-salaamu 3alaykum" is not explicitly religious, it is widely considered a Moslem greeting. Just so you know.mansio said:
That's correct. One more:
You would use "3alaykunna" if addressing a group of females.
("3alaykum" is used if addressing a group of all males or both females and males.)
That is true, but I don't know if it has to do with a Western influence.
No. You only reverse it as a direct response.
I agree with you, it's also the simplest greeting. And I personally prefer simple thingsmansio said:
This is right, the dual form doesn't have feminine "sub-form"
it's always "mâ". There's also 3alaykunna for plural feminine.But, the common usage is to say as-salamu 3alaykum even to one person, male or female. You can consider this plural form as the French "vous" of respect.
Yes
see above. But I'm not sure about the western languages' effect here.No, in writing you only "reverse" it when you're answering someone's greeting.
The idea is not exactly to reverse, but this is the structure to say "and to you too". It's used for any king of replying to wishes :
- baaraka Allahu fiika بارك الله فيك God bless you
- wa fiika وفيك And you too
- atamanna laka 3aaman sa3idan أتمنى لك عامًا سعيدًا I wish you a happy year
- wa laka aydan ولك أيضًا And to you too
and so on...
Once more, dear Elroy, we write almost the same thing at the same time
Could somebody explain what's the difference between the expressions "baraka allahu fik" and "allah yubarik fik"?
I think I know how to use them in Moroccan darija (the first one to say "thank you" and the second one as an answer to the first or to any other expression containing the verb b-r-k. Is it the same in fusha?.
I also wonder if the expression "tbarak allah aleik/aleih/ha, etc", which Moroccans use a lot (especially for children, but also for grown-ups meaning "bravo aleik" (eg)) is used in fusha.
Shukran jazeelan!
I think I know how to use them in Moroccan darija (the first one to say "thank you" and the second one as an answer to the first or to any other expression containing the verb b-r-k. Is it the same in fusha?.
I also wonder if the expression "tbarak allah aleik/aleih/ha, etc", which Moroccans use a lot (especially for children, but also for grown-ups meaning "bravo aleik" (eg)) is used in fusha.
Shukran jazeelan!
Basicaly, there is no difference. Although the first one is mostly used with wishes : verb+Allah+"the wish" :Rosa Fernandez said:
Baaraka Allahu fikaa
Shafaaka Allahu
RaHimahu Allahu
But the other form is also used :
Allah yubaarik fika
Allah ye3Tika al-3aafeya
Allah yesaam7ak (used in Egypt, i.e. May God forgive you, and used when you're uppset with someone but don't won't to quarrel with them, sometimes perceived as childish
)In colloquial Egyptian we mostly use the second, and we use it when someone congratulates us for something, saying "mabrook".
No, this is not fusHa. The structure itself tabaaraka 3ala is not fusHa, at least I've never seen before.
Muchas gracias Cherine, no sé de dónde sacas el tiempo para contestar a todas las preguntas! un beso
Let me just add that we don't use "baaraka 'l-laahu fiika." We use the colloquial version of "allahu yubaariku fiika," that is "alla ybaarek fiik" in exactly the way Cherine described - as an answer to "mabruuk."
We also use "alla ysaam7ak" in a similar way.
We also use "alla ysaam7ak" in a similar way.