Here's hoping...

Discussion in 'English Only' started by terrortwilight, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. terrortwilight Member

    South Korea, Korean
    As seen in this sentence:
    ex) Here's hoping this is false information and it's just a server problem.

    is the phrase "here's hoping...." used to imply that the speaker is merely stating his/her own *humble* opinion? More like "I for one hope that..."? Then why use 'here' instead of 'I'?? Curious...

    Thanks ;)
  2. Joobs Banned

    In a house
    Glasgow, Scotland - English
    Not quite. It is more a general comment than a personal one. I suppose the closest would be "Let us (all) hope" or simply "Hopefully". Usually it is used to signify that you hope for better news that which has been stated (the information proving false that it isn't just a server problem in your example).
  3. Trisia

    Trisia mod de viață

    I guess you might be right... still it's not something I'm familiar with.

    Could you please provide more context? Are you certain that the speaker is referring to himself? (He's hoping would make much more sense :confused:)
  4. cheshire

    cheshire Senior Member

    Catholic (Cat-holic, not Catholic)
    Don't you think "Here's hoping..." is less pushing one's hope than "I hope..."?
  5. nzseries1

    nzseries1 Senior Member

    New Zealand - English
    "Here's hoping" is (as far as I know) just an expression which means "you and I both (or all of us) hope". It just conveys the idea that "clearly it would be good for all of us if..."
  6. Don't the phrase mean that the speaker hopes something will happen?
    here's hoping
    informal —used to say that you hope something will happen ▪ Here's hoping (that) it doesn't rain.
  7. pickarooney

    pickarooney Senior Member

    Provence, France
    English (Ireland)
    I'd agree with nzseries1. It's a general, 'let us all hope' kind of thing, much like the here's used in a toast.

    Incidentally are there any other verbs that allow this construction (besides 'Here's looking at you, kid')
  8. "Here's hoping ..." can be used to say that you and someone else hope something will happen, can't it?
  9. Andygc

    Andygc Senior Member

    British English
    Perhaps you are trying to make it too structured and too rule-based. It is an informal expression.

    The original post could equally have been a computer technician saying "I hope this is ...". Instead, he pushed himself back from the desk and said "Here's hoping ..."

    "Our football team has lost the last 5 matches. Here's hoping/I hope we win next week"

    "Our grandson is just cutting a new tooth. Here's hoping/we hope he doesn't cry all night"

    They are interchangeable in normal day-to-day speech. If the computer technician was writing a memorandum to whoever reported the fault he would be better to write "I hope that this is false information ..."
  10. ajb110 New Member

    The phrase is actually "here's to hoping..." and I feel like the "here" part of it is more like "here, here" like what you say during a toast. Almost as if you are toasting the idea.
    So "here's to hoping we win next week" is like toasting to a future victory, but in a context where nobody toasts with drinks.

    That's my guess of it anyway.
  11. natkretep

    natkretep Moderato con anima (English Only)

    English (Singapore/UK), basic Chinese
    No, I think the approving noise that people make is 'hear, hear' (rather than 'here, here') meaning 'listen to this': it's in our dictionary -

  12. Gwan Senior Member

    Indre et Loire, France
    New Zealand, English
    Well, I've never heard "here's to hoping" in my life, so I was surprised to see it does get a lot of relevant Google hits - perhaps it's more used in America. As to "here, here", Wikipedia (for one EDIT: and natkretep for two) backs up my opinion that the correct version is "hear, hear".

    Welcome to the forums by the way!
  13. Andygc

    Andygc Senior Member

    British English


    ditto :)
  14. csicska Senior Member

    Hello. Can "Here's hoping (that...)" mean something like "you better hope that it is like that or you might not like the outcome"? Thank you.
  15. Andygc

    Andygc Senior Member

    British English
    No. It means what has already been said above.
  16. "here's to hoping" is also something I've never heard, but I also was reminded of the formula for toasting with drinks: "Here's hoping that the New Year will be a good one." The speaker is saying that for not just himself, but for and to the group hearing it, and implicitly to all who could possibly be involved.

    It's neither humble nor pushy, but rather a kind of a minor leadership position to be the one to make the statement. "Here's hoping this is false information and it's just a server problem." to me does exactly the same thing.
  17. csicska Senior Member

    Thank you, Andygc and Dale Texas.

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