Hollow verb

Jana337

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I had a look at the glossary of Arabic grammar terms, something I definitely want to master as I feel that it will facilitate the acquisition of the splendid language.

What is الأجْوَف, a hollow verb, please?

The definition says that middle is a weak letter.

Are those by any chance those verbs that I can never find in dictionaries because they have waaw, yaa or alef in the root?

Jana
 
  • The hollow verb is that of which the middle, i.e the second letter of its root is a vowel. (maybe because vowels are considered "less solid" than consonants:) )
    example :
    maala = incline م - ي - ل
    qaala = say ق - و - ل
    taala = took long time, became tall ط - و - ل
    and so on.
    I hope I was clear
     
    cherine said:
    The hollow verb is that of which the middle, i.e the second letter of its root is a vowel. (maybe because vowels are considered "less solid" than consonants:) )
    example :
    maala = incline م - ي - ل
    qaala = say ق - و - ل
    taala = took long time, became tall ط - و - ل
    and so on.
    I hope I was clear
    You were clear, but I can reconcile what you wrote with my stock of knowledge. :)
    For example qaala should be, if I am not wrong, قالَ, without a waaw. What would justify writing "waaw" or "yaa" in the root? :confused:

    Jana
     
    Jana337 said:
    ... qaala should be, if I am not wrong, قالَ, without a waaw. What would justify writing "waaw" or "yaa" in the root? Jana
    That's one of the difficulties of searching for the roots of Arabic words.
    The alef is usually a "transformation" of either "waaw" or "yaa2". To know which is the origin of the alef in a verb's root, you use the present form of the verb :
    قال - يقول : so the origin of the alef is waaw
    مال - يميل : so it's a yaa2
    مَشَى - يمشِى : so the alef in the end of the verb is originally a yaa2 .... and so on.
     
    Hm... Interesting. And probably way beyond my current level:)

    Our textbooks teach us to think of the roots this way: Take the perfect masculine form in the 3rd person (like kataba) and remove vowels. If I understand correctly, this strategy would not work with hollow verbs because the 3rd person is qaala but the root is q-w-l. Am I on the right track?

    Jana
     
    Jana337 said:
    Our textbooks teach us to think of the roots this way: Take the perfect masculine form in the 3rd person (like kataba) and remove vowels. If I understand correctly, this strategy would not work with hollow verbs because the 3rd person is qaala but the root is q-w-l. Am I on the right track?
    Jana
    You're right. But it's not that hard. Simply needs some practice. The problem is only with the second letter when it's a vowel ا - ى - و or more precisely an "alef". The rule is also very simple : just put the present form of the verb to determine the origin of the alef. Otherwise, it's the same rule you've said that applies.
    Good luck :) And i'd love to help you with any verb you'd be confused about; I've always enjoyed this "root-finding game" :)
     
    cherine said:
    The rule is also very simple : just put the present form of the verb to determine the origin of the alef.
    Now you made me laugh - I use the root to determine everything else, including the present form. :D
    Good luck :) And i'd love to help you with any verb you'd be confused about; I've always enjoyed this "root-finding game" :)
    شكرا جزيلا

    ينا
     
    Jana337 said:
    Now you made me laugh - I use the root to determine everything else, including the present form. :D

    :eek: Sorry Jana, I hoped I was of help. Still, you can practice the way we did at school, we used to learn the 3 forms of a verb : past - present and "participle?" مفعول مطلق
    كتب - يكتب - كتابةً
    مشى - يمشى - مشيًا
    قرأ - يقرأ - قراءةً
    نَظَرَ - ينظر - نَظَرًا
    ... maybe with practice you'll find it as easy as i do ?
     
    cherine said:
    :eek: Sorry Jana, I hoped I was of help. Still, you can practice the way we did at school, we used to learn the 3 forms of a verb : past - present and "participle?" مفعول مطلق
    كتب - يكتب - كتابةً
    مشى - يمشى - مشيًا
    قرأ - يقرأ - قراءةً
    نَظَرَ - ينظر - نَظَرًا
    ... maybe with practice you'll find it as easy as i do ?
    Of course you were. :thumbsup: I will learn it with the help of this great community.

    إن رومة لم تبن في يوم واحد, after all. ;)

    ينا
     
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