hommage lige au devoir d'un gant blanc

Discussion in 'French-English Vocabulary / Vocabulaire Français-Anglais' started by keithyd, Jul 11, 2014.

  1. keithyd Senior Member

    English UK
    I'm translating a guide document for an old château in France, and the introduction contains the following section, for which I'd be grateful for some help:

    "[the fiefdom] possède un droit de basse justice et est tenu à foi et hommage lige au devoir d'un gant blanc d'une valeur de dix deniers à mutations de seigneur et d'homme."

  2. jetset

    jetset Senior Member

    I found "liege homage" for translation but can't understand the meaning.
  3. snarkhunter

    snarkhunter Senior Member

    France, Région parisienne
    French - France
  4. Michelvar

    Michelvar quasimodo

    Marseille - France
    French from France
    To avoid the bare link effect, a short summary of the link given by snarkhunter : A vassal has to give tribute to his overlord either by fulfilling a "military service", or by paying in kind or in money.

    In your context, every time the overlord changes (à mutation de seigneur et d'homme), the vassal has to show his faith and respect (il est tenu à foi et hommage) by giving a white glove worth 10 deniers.
  5. keithyd Senior Member

    English UK

    Wonderful, thank you!
  6. Uncle Bob Senior Member

    British English
    The (English) Wikipedia page on "Hommage" uses "reverence and submission" for "à foi et hommage" but only as a description.

    1 white glove! Was that line of the aristocracy all one-armed?
  7. bh7 Senior Member

    Limestone City
    Canada; English
    The usual expression in English is "pledge of faith and homage", not "reverence and submission". The duties of the pledge of homage were greater than that of a mere pledge of faith. A liegeman could pledge faith to several lords, but he could pay homage to only one. The mediaeval history of England and France provides telling examples of the possible conflicts caused by the Plantagenets owing homage to the (militarily weak) French king while at the same time being sovereigns of England.
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2014

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