roniy said:so if he wants to confuse the goalie he _______ the ball.
swyves said:In cricket, the term for making a ball curve in mid-air is called swing.
foxfirebrand said:Are you sure you didn't hear the phrase "swing at the ball?" In baseball that would mean the batter tried to hit the ball (he swung his bat at it).
That's right, the batter swings (the bat) at the ball and, hopefully, hits the ball. However, swing is often used in the context of "swing and miss", where, the batter did swing the bat at the ball but didn't hit it, i.e. he/she missed. If the ball was not hit, wether the batter swung or not may determine the "balls vs. strikes" count for this batter.roniy said:But i don't understand one thing. every hit of a batter would call "swing at the ball"
Well, I did say "tried to hit," but I left the question of whether he succeeded open. We tend to think of a swing as a "swing and a miss," but a batter can take a wild swing at a curveball and tip it foul-- is that a hit?roniy said:But i don't understand one thing. every hit of a batter would call "swing at the ball"
foxfirebrand said:Well, I did say "tried to hit," but I left the question of whether he succeeded open. We tend to think of a swing as a "swing and a miss," but a batter can take a wild swing at a curveball and tip it foul-- is that a hit?
If a batter swings at the ball, he usually misses. If he hits the ball, he usually hits it foul or it is caught, or he is thrown out-- hitting the ball and "getting a hit" are two different things.
In baseball a hit occurs when you hit the ball and get on base without being put out. Swinging the bat is a very common activity, especially if you include "practice swings"-- where the batter steps out of the box and swings (for example while the catcher walks out to the mound to talk to the pitcher).
So-- you can swing without hitting, but you can't hit without swinging. So when we talk about hits, we don't usually bother to mention the swing involved.
I hope there was an answer to your question in there somewhere, roniy.
If not, feel free to ask again. You always keep trying to get a clear answer and fully understand, and I enjoy that quality in you. Others get tired or give up, and they don't learn as much as they could.
Actually, a knuckball has no spin, or is not supposed to. That's the whole point. The idea is that the ball itself, because of its "seams", is thrown this way and that way by the air. That's why no one knows for sure what the ball is going to do, including the pitcher. Have you ever seen the size of the mits used by catchers who are trying to catch knuckleballs?papillon said:I think the closest baseball equivalent to "bend" is "put a spin", as in
" a knuckleballer tends to put a lot of spin on the ball..."