Ignoring "bad" foreros

Discussion in 'Comments and Suggestions' started by Orlin, May 17, 2010.

  1. Orlin Banned

    София
    български
    Hi all! I've been in this forum for 9 months and haven't yet met a "bad" forero deserving to be ingnored. I'd like to ask you:
    1. Have you encountered "bad" foreros that bother you?
    2. Do you put forum members in the Ignore List? If you do, when?
    3. Do you think that it is useful to use the Ignore List? I think not very much - it's better to simply report "bad" posts and if the offender doesn't improve, he'll be banned; but because banning is normally a slow procedure, maybe it makes sense to ignore him/her before being finally banned.
    Thank you!
     
  2. Valeria Mesalina

    Valeria Mesalina Senior Member

    Santiago de Compostela
    Spanish, Spain
    Hi,

    1- It depends on your definition of a "bad" forero. I'm probably on someone's ignore list. There are far too many of us to like everybody - or to be liked by everybody.

    2- No, there's no one on my ignore list... at the moment.

    3- By all means report posts which are obnoxious. But an ignore list is not necessarily filled with "to be banned in a foreseeable future" foreros. Just with people whose opinions you'd rather not see.
     
  3. Copyright

    Copyright Senior Member

    Penang
    American English
    There's an ignore list? :eek: I need to get out more. :D

    Back to the question, I only hang around the English Only forum, but I think the moderators and experienced members are all pretty great -- and extremely tolerant when it comes to addressing the incredibly irritating lack of context and other transgressions.

    I figure if they can remain mild-mannered and politely spoken after 10, 20, 30 and 40,000 messages -- and seeing the same annoyances day after day, year after year -- then I can certainly do the same. :)
     
  4. Orlin Banned

    София
    български
    It is part of anyone's user panel - every member can put in this list other users that bother him/her and if you do so, you won't see the posts of this "unwanted" user and won't be able to receive PMs or e-mails from this member.
     
  5. dec-sev Senior Member

    Sevastopo;
    Russian
    One day an American started his thread on the Russian forum having written: "It's well known that lie and fraud are part of life in the former USSR countries". And then he asked a question. It's is if I called a German on the German forum a facsist and then asked him to help me :)
    May be that was just a slip, but I remembered the nick of that forumer and don't answer his threads any longer.
    And I don't ask the questions of those who don't know the word "thanks" :)
     
  6. danielfranco

    danielfranco Senior Member

    I haven't been able to read any of the posts in this thread, since y'all are in my ignore list.

    Nah, just kiddin'!! Sheesh, don't be so touchy! Dang! Just a joke, ya know?

    Anyways, yes, there are "bad" foreros. Usually, they are the stalker type, and want to know all about you, and need you to solve all their language problems.

    I mean, the rude ones, the ones that piss you off with off-color comments about your nationality, your gender, your attire, or other personal things, well, those are actually kind of funny, because they only argue with you for a little while and then they go bother someone else.

    So, as a temporary measure, the "ignore list" is rather handy.

    Okay, after posting this, it's back to the list with the lot of you!!!!

    (still kiddin', alright?)

    D
     
  7. Nunty

    Nunty Modified

    Jerusalem
    Hebrew-US English (bilingual)
    I put someone on my ignore list once (before I was a mod). His replies to me made me feel afraid and stalked. I think he even said something like "I'll be watching you". :eek:

    It was a useful tool to help me feel safe in the forums.
     
  8. dec-sev Senior Member

    Sevastopo;
    Russian
    Suppose a person who is in your ignore list posts on a thread. As far as I get it, you can't see his post. How can you follow the development of the thread then?
     
  9. Nunty

    Nunty Modified

    Jerusalem
    Hebrew-US English (bilingual)
    If you decide you want to see a particular post, you have the option of doing so. I don't remember exactly, but once you ignore BadGuy, all his posts are marked "hidden" and there is something to click on if you want to reveal it.
     
  10. Loob

    Loob Senior Member

    English UK
    I use it as a temporary measure too. I find it soothing. When someone annoys me, I put them on my ignore list, saying to myself "Yah boo, that's taught you a lesson, you horrible little @%*#%."

    (Yes, I know they don't know they're on my list - but it makes me feel better....)

    People don't stay on my ignore list long. I usually can't resist peeking at their posts via the "View Post" option. That gets awfully wearing after a while.
     
  11. Copyright

    Copyright Senior Member

    Penang
    American English
    Sounds like we need a snuff list... that is truly terrible and quite unnerving. You just want to reach through his little IP address and grab him by the neck... and it's going to be a guy, of course.

    I've been physically threatened once, anonymously, of course, by someone who completely misread my response in a photography forum. Fairly unnerving, as I said, even when you're a guy yourself -- and frustrating because there's nothing you can do. Just try to forget it.

    This is probably the best use of the list that I've seen.

    I've forgotten that "foreros" includes anyone on the forum, not just the old hands. There are two or three relatively new but not too new members who can get on my nerves, but not so much that I can't just ignore them and move on. When I stumble on a particularly annoying post, I just pretend that I'm not online that day -- that I'm in Bali without an Internet connection -- and that life will go on quite well without my posting a response. It is so easy to fool myself. :)
     
  12. ewie

    ewie Senior Member

    Another Country
    English English
    I've never once used 'ignore' ~ I just haven't come across anyone who irritated me enough to do that:)
     
  13. Valeria Mesalina

    Valeria Mesalina Senior Member

    Santiago de Compostela
    Spanish, Spain
    No :D.... someone who surfs the net is going to find a stalking fellow here and there. Anonymity gives a lot of courage to stalkers, does it not?

    The ones I have had the misfortune to find were women, not men. But who knows, they might have been aliens using a female nick.
     
  14. Encolpius

    Encolpius Senior Member

    Praha (Prague)
    magyar (Hungarian)
    I haven't known about that ignore list. So far I have had really only positive reactions from members. Then, I am more interested in the language than the members. And even a bad forero can have an excellent comments, what happened in the Russian forum a couple of days ago. Then, thank God I have a good sense of humour, I must be tolerant and I take some comments with a pinch of salt. It matters and hurts me what my friends say and not completely strange people on the net. :)
     
  15. rusita preciosa

    rusita preciosa Modus forendi

    USA (Φιλαδέλφεια)
    Russian (Moscow)
    Other than annoying PMs “wanna be friends” I receive regularly from foreros hispanoablantes with zero posts to their name (this I attribute to my unfortunate choice of nickname, so my own fault entirely), I really have not come across foreros "bad" enough to put on the ignore list. I actually just learned about the existence of the ignore list from this thread.

    If I find a post unacceptable, I usually just report it to a mod.
     
  16. Encolpius

    Encolpius Senior Member

    Praha (Prague)
    magyar (Hungarian)
    I haven't ever received a wanna be friends PM. :( Nobody wants to make friends with me. :D Maybe because I am a man.
     
  17. Copyright

    Copyright Senior Member

    Penang
    American English
    Count yourself lucky. A few have wanted to be friends with me... to do their homework, proofreading, technical papers, etc. On the bright side, it did give me a chance to write a nice note declining the opportunity. :)
     
  18. Copyright

    Copyright Senior Member

    Penang
    American English
    I haven't either... I would always wonder if they ever did come up with something interesting or insightful... or if they'd actually changed. That question in the back of my mind would be more annoying than seeing them. :)
     
  19. Copyright

    Copyright Senior Member

    Penang
    American English
    Oh, great... girl stalkers. I was hoping it was confined to guys. That's even stranger to me... although you do read about bullying in the schools by both girls and boys, so there's no reason to think it doesn't happen online.
     
  20. cyberpedant

    cyberpedant Senior Member

    North Adams, MA
    English USA, Northeast, NYC
    Perhaps we need a thread on stalking.
     
  21. Encolpius

    Encolpius Senior Member

    Praha (Prague)
    magyar (Hungarian)
    Oh, how naive I am! It didn't occur to me. I mean that kind of wanna be my friend. But I speak a rare language so that's the reason I have been spared. :)
     
  22. TimLA

    TimLA Senior Member

    Los Angeles
    English - US
    Hi,

    1. Have you encountered "bad" foreros that bother you?
    It's very rare. With "rude" behavior I add them to the list.

    2. Do you put forum members in the Ignore List? If you do, when?
    Yes - my ignore list is VERY long - 55 as of right now. I mostly use the list to remind me about a forero's behavior.
    Sometimes forero's names are very similar to each other and I can't remember which is which.
    (I usually identify people by their avatar - so when they change it [face-lift:D] I don't recognize them:))
    Reasons:
    a - obnoxious to anyone on the forum (If I learn about it)
    b - confused - some foreros ask questions and are so confused that it becomes very frustrating trying to help them.
    c - one-way foreros - I'll watch someone post a series of questions, and after a while you learn that they use the forum "one-way" -
    they want help, but they rarely, if ever, give it. They go on the ignore list.

    3. Do you think that it is useful to use the Ignore List?
    Yes - see above.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2010
  23. rusita preciosa

    rusita preciosa Modus forendi

    USA (Φιλαδέλφεια)
    Russian (Moscow)

    He he he - As I said, unfortunate choice of the nick - that'll teachya to use words in a language you just start learning, without knowing their exact meaning!:D


    I actually received several PMs asking me to help with Russian, usually from people who do not know the language at all and who don't want to violate the forum rules by posting a question without own attempt / context. One regarded a family matter that I also would not want to post for the whole world to see. I’m usually happy to help in these cases, but not with doing people's work for them and not with someone’s homework of course.
     
  24. swift

    swift Senior Member

    Spanish – Costa Rica (Valle Central)
    There's only one person in my ignore list, and there's a very good reason for that person to be blacklisted*: he is an utterly obnoxious individual. Even though several members disgust me, I wouldn't add them to my ignore list unless they annoy me by repeatedly insulting me or other fellow members.

    I do what seems to be the most practical thing: I avoid any interaction with people I don't like, and whenever I feel like posting a reply in a thread that one of those persons has taken part into, I simply avoid quoting them or even interact with them (no greetings, no nothing).

    _______________
    * I use that verb for two main reasons: 1) being one of my contacts is a privilege :cool: (just kidding :p), 2) blacklisting someone is a last resort after trying the most reasonable measure, i.e. settling matters and making peace.
     
  25. PABLO DE SOTO Senior Member

    Spain Spanish
    I receive those kind of posts as well. They are always girl name nicks.
    I just ignore them and they don't disturb me any more, at least with the same nick.
     
  26. Encolpius

    Encolpius Senior Member

    Praha (Prague)
    magyar (Hungarian)
    Well, nomen est omen. :)
     
  27. mirx Banned

    Español
    It was a woman in my case, and I have been tempted to ignore a couple of fellas with girlish personalities.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2010
  28. Nonstar

    Nonstar Senior Member

    the outskirts of inner pantyhoses
    In-love-with-the-coming-race Portuguese
    I suspect someone might have put me on that list, it would make so proud! :D
     
  29. xqby

    xqby Senior Member

    Oxnard, CA
    English (U.S.)
    I didn't know we had one either! I have a mental "oh brother" list (i.e. I say "oh brother" to myself when I see their user name), but I don't think I want to actually block myself from reading their posts.

    There was one fellow who I might have blacklisted if I had known about the feature then, but just not responding to PMs works out to about the same thing anyways.
     
  30. dec-sev Senior Member

    Sevastopo;
    Russian
    Suppose I have a forumer A in the ignoring list. He writes a post, I cannot see it. Another forumer, let's say a forumer B includes in his post a quote of the forumer A. Will I see this quote in his post?
     
  31. mirx Banned

    Español
    Yes.
     
  32. dec-sev Senior Member

    Sevastopo;
    Russian
    Another question. Can I put a moderator into the ignoring list? There is a man who on a Culture Cafe thread bored me to death. I was about to include him into the list (actually I wanted to start my list with this person after nearly 4 years on the forum) but the man tured out to be a moderator.
     
  33. Nunty

    Nunty Modified

    Jerusalem
    Hebrew-US English (bilingual)
    Try it and see. :D

    Another fun thing to do is to try to put your own name on your ignore list.

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    Sorry, can't be done. But if you feel that a moderator is being consistently unfair to you or hassling you can always talk to another moderator or the administrator about him or her.
     
  34. Encolpius

    Encolpius Senior Member

    Praha (Prague)
    magyar (Hungarian)
    Hello, just out of curiosity, would the ignored person know that I have put him/her on the ignoring list?
     
  35. Nunty

    Nunty Modified

    Jerusalem
    Hebrew-US English (bilingual)
    No, that person does not know. If they send you a PM it just disappears and as far as they know, you simply did not reply.
     
  36. Orlin Banned

    София
    български
    It seems to be true - my language is also rare and haven't received invitations for friendship too.
    Besides, I don't think that being invited to be friends by itself is annoying - it can be so only if it happens too often or someone persists in inviting you despite you decline the proposals.
     
  37. Valeria Mesalina

    Valeria Mesalina Senior Member

    Santiago de Compostela
    Spanish, Spain
    Oh. I thought the sender would receive a message saying something like "this forero has deactivated the PM feature".
     
  38. miguel89

    miguel89 Senior Member

    Argentina
    Spanish
    Is there a way to see who has blocked you? If there isn't, it would be interesting to have that option available, since if there is something more uncomfortable than being ignored, it's not even knowing if you are being ignored.
     
  39. jann

    jann co-mod'

    English - USA
    No, I don't believe there is.

    Furthermore, I am under the impression that usage of the "ignore" feature is really very rare on this site. It tends to make threads difficult to read for the person who has chosen to block/ignore other members -- because when the person goes to read a thread where someone on his ignore list has participated, the blocked member's posts aren't shown, and but posts where other members have replied to or quoted the blocked member are visible. As a result, the thread discussion is confusing and doesn't make sense to the person who is using the ignore feature.

    Please note that I've merged your question into an existing thread. You may be interested to read back through the previous posts.

    Jann
    moderator
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2010
  40. Nonstar

    Nonstar Senior Member

    the outskirts of inner pantyhoses
    In-love-with-the-coming-race Portuguese
    How about if you're a sad forero?
     
  41. bondia

    bondia Senior Member

    Illes Balears
    English-England

    Yes, I get quite a few of the: "you want practis you spanish with me?" and they go straight to the mods, along with the people advertising bank services, casinos, etc.
    I got one PM which was truly offensive after I had politely made a correction to this guy's post. I reported it and was advised by a mod to use the ignore list. It must be about a year ago, and he's still on it, all alone there in the dark, and is gonna stay there till hell freezes over:p
    Ah! the wrath of a woman scorned...:rolleyes:
     
  42. siares

    siares Senior Member

    Slovak
    Hi all,
    we've tried out ignoring with another member, and whereas their posts were invisible; I still received PMs from them. And vice versa. PMs worked even when we ignored each other.
    Could this be fixed?
    Reading somebody's posts on public thread is less personal than discovering their messages in one's inbox.
     
  43. JamesM

    JamesM à la Mod (English Only)

    You received PMs from them that were initiated by them?
     
  44. siares

    siares Senior Member

    Slovak
    I don't understand...
     
  45. Peterdg

    Peterdg Senior Member

    Belgium
    Dutch - Belgium
    I guess what James means is:

    After you have ignored a member, can that member still start a new conversation with you?
     
  46. siares

    siares Senior Member

    Slovak
    Aah! We didn't try deleting the old conversation and starting a new one. Messages arrived 'into' the old one (whilst ignoring).
     
  47. JamesM

    JamesM à la Mod (English Only)

    I don't think an ignored user can start a new conversation with you.
     
  48. siares

    siares Senior Member

    Slovak
    Should have thought of trying that out. All their posts in threads had vanished instantly upon ignoring, no refresh or anything needed.
    Thanks both!
     
  49. Aserolf

    Aserolf Senior Member

    Colorado, USA
    Spanish/Torreón☺MEX
    I have a question for Moderators or the Administrator:
    If I ignore someone by adding it to the "ignore list", will that someone still be able to see my posts or respond to any of my posts?
    The reason is, out of my 10 years in this forum, I have only encountered "bad" foreros a couple of times.
    I usually ignore them, the problem is, if I chose to ignore someone, wouldn't be fair that someone isn't able to see what I post? How can I do this?

    I just reported this "forero" using one of the posts he/she replied to in a thread I am subscribed. I did because it is not just me who he/she has been demeaning and/or rude (you -Moderators- can check his/her posts in some other threads, not just the only one I reported), but meanwhile, what should I do?

    Thank you
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2015
  50. Peterdg

    Peterdg Senior Member

    Belgium
    Dutch - Belgium
    Yes, they will be able to see your posts and also reply to them. (Everybody can see your posts, even if they are not logged in).
     

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