In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti
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English
The quote is actually in the language Esperanto
"In Nomeni (name) Patri (father) Et (and) Fili (son) Spiritus (spirit) Sancti (sanctity or peace/holyness)"
So it is "In the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit"
This quote is also brought up in a movie called "The Boondock Saints"
It is said with this prayer:
"And shepards we shall be for thee my lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand our feet may swiftly carry out thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti."
The prayers basically means that you will gain the power from the Lord to do as he wants and make a river flow of the bad souls that he makes you take.
In the movie the 2 brothers say this prayers before they kill a bad person.
It's a good quote and i'm p lanning on getting this tattood on me some time soon.
"In Nomeni (name) Patri (father) Et (and) Fili (son) Spiritus (spirit) Sancti (sanctity or peace/holyness)"
So it is "In the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit"
This quote is also brought up in a movie called "The Boondock Saints"
It is said with this prayer:
"And shepards we shall be for thee my lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand our feet may swiftly carry out thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to thee and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti."
The prayers basically means that you will gain the power from the Lord to do as he wants and make a river flow of the bad souls that he makes you take.
In the movie the 2 brothers say this prayers before they kill a bad person.
It's a good quote and i'm p lanning on getting this tattood on me some time soon.
Italian
Even though the two languages may look very similar in that sentence, it's by no doubt Latin (link).
In is a Latin preposition which needs the ablative, and nomine is the ablative form of nomen, "name". Patris, filii, spiritus and sancti are the genitives of pater, filius, spiritus and sanctus. Finally et is a Latin conjunction.
In is a Latin preposition which needs the ablative, and nomine is the ablative form of nomen, "name". Patris, filii, spiritus and sancti are the genitives of pater, filius, spiritus and sanctus. Finally et is a Latin conjunction.
Italian
you have to consider the difference between words, in the Latin "genitive form".
for instance "Pater" means "father",
"Patris" means "of the father" (genitive form);
the same is for "Filius" (son)
and "Filii" (of the son). (there is only one L in "FILII")
"Sanctus" means "holy/saint", "Spiritus" means "spirit/ghost",
the Genitive form turns it into "Sancti" (of the saint),
and consequentially: "Spiritus Sancti" (of the saint spirit/holy ghost)
Thus you have:
"in nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti"
and the final meaning is:
"in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost"
don't worry, though... I heard the Pope himself saying it wrong! ...well he IS german, so...
for instance "Pater" means "father",
"Patris" means "of the father" (genitive form);
the same is for "Filius" (son)
and "Filii" (of the son). (there is only one L in "FILII")
"Sanctus" means "holy/saint", "Spiritus" means "spirit/ghost",
the Genitive form turns it into "Sancti" (of the saint),
and consequentially: "Spiritus Sancti" (of the saint spirit/holy ghost)
Thus you have:
"in nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti"
and the final meaning is:
"in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost"
don't worry, though... I heard the Pope himself saying it wrong!
...well he IS german, so...
English - US
and the final meaning is:
"in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost"
don't worry, though... I heard the Pope himself saying it wrong! ...well he IS German, so...
"in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost"
don't worry, though... I heard the Pope himself saying it wrong!
...well he IS German, so...
In English we allow this kind of parallel construction. When words are repeated, they may be omitted; the reader or listener supplies them. "In the name of the father and son and holy ghost" is understood as "in the name of the father and of the son and of the holy ghost." Latin, too, allows for the omission of repeated words. The translation that omits the words is true to English syntax and consistent with the meaning of the Latin.
"Patris" and "filii" are genitive. At the first glance I had some problems with the combination of "spiritus" and "sancti" as I did not realize that "spiritus" was a genitive, too. Spiritus belongs to the so called "u-declension" which means nominative and genitive are equal. They just differ in pronunciation (short vs. long "u").
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