jácena/viga de canto

Little_Little

Senior Member
Catalan (Catalonia) / Spanish (Spain)
Hi!

Does anyone know the English term for "jácena/viga de canto"? A "jácena/viga de canto" is a beam that's thicker than the slab it supports, so its thickness is seen either by the upper or the lower side of the floor.

In case there's no specific term, how would you call it? "thick beam" maybe?

Thanks!
 
  • Little_Little

    Senior Member
    Catalan (Catalonia) / Spanish (Spain)
    Hi frida-nc

    "girder" is "viga", not "viga de canto". I guess there's no translation for "viga de canto"...

    Thanks anyway!
     

    frida-nc

    Senior Member
    English USA
    A girder is a "viga maestra" or "viga principal." Your phrase, which I didn't understand before, "its thickness is seen either by the upper or the lower side" suggests it is at the "edge" of the slab, so it's an "edge beam."
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    Little_Little

    Senior Member
    Catalan (Catalonia) / Spanish (Spain)
    Hi!

    It doesn't have to be at the edge, it can be in the middle of the slab, it's just that the beam is thicker than the slab, that's why you can see it...

    Anyway, there might be no translation for it...

    Thanks for the will! :)
     

    frida-nc

    Senior Member
    English USA
    Just to show you what other pages have made of it: a Google search.
    One of the suggestions is "a beam laid on edge." Si su dimensión (anchura) más larga se coloca en sentido vertical, sería una buena descripción también.
     

    Little_Little

    Senior Member
    Catalan (Catalonia) / Spanish (Spain)
    hi!
    I reopen the threat.

    Doesn't anyone actually know how to name a "viga de canto" in English? It's a girder which is thicker (higher?) than the slab that contains it.

    I post you a link with an image, I don't think my previous explanation was clear enough: http://es.bibliocad.com/biblioteca/detalles-constructivos/hormigon-armado/image/7817-detalle-de-apoyo-de-forjado-de-bovedilla-de-hormigon-sobre-viga-de-canto.gif

    In the image you'll see a "viga de canto" on an edge, but it doesn't have to be on one edge, it can perfectly be on the middle of the slab.

    Thanks, I really need to know this term!
     

    mora

    Senior Member
    Canada, English
    Hello,

    When the 'viga de canto' is on the edge of a slab , it is called an 'edge beam' or an 'L-beam'. When it occurs in the middle of the slab, it is called a 'T-beam'. This system is called 'slab and beam' or 'beam-in-slab' construction.

    Best regards,

    Mora
     

    Little_Little

    Senior Member
    Catalan (Catalonia) / Spanish (Spain)
    Hi mora!

    Thanks for your help!

    Are you sure about these terms? In Spain, a T-beam is a beam with a T-shape, and an L-beam is a beam with an L-shape.

    A "viga de canto" is rectangular, the "cage" formed by the reinforcement is completely rectangular, it's just higher than the slab.
     

    Little_Little

    Senior Member
    Catalan (Catalonia) / Spanish (Spain)
    Thanks for the link mora!

    I'm still not sure about it though, because for the L-beam and T-beam, the calculations take into consideration the concrete and steel of the slab surrounding thee beams, and it's not the case in the "viga de canto" (at least theoretically).

    But it seems it's the closest option I can get!
     

    marghera

    Senior Member
    Italian/Spanish(SPA) - bilingual
    I know this may be a silly question but have you considered the possibility that "viga de canto" may not be a proper name but a simple description of the way you lay the beam? ie: wide-side-up sort of thing?
     

    mora

    Senior Member
    Canada, English
    If the 'viga de canto' is independant of the slab, poured seperately, then in English it is simply a 'beam'. There is no special word(s) that describe a beam of this type. We just have to accept that in this case , Spanish is more precise. A very large beam is a girder. Girder is used more often with steel construction than concrete construction, but it applies to both.
     
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