# Large numbers of people/A large number of people

#### Anais Ninn

##### Senior Member
Someone sent me a sentence which reads "Large numbers of people is protesting outside." and asked me to correct it. I wrote "A large number of people are protesting outside." to him.

The next day, he sent me a message and said that his teacher told him that "Large numbers of..." is a correct expression. But I always hear "A number of people are...", not "Numbers of people are..." I would like your confirmation.

Thanks a lot.

Anais

p.s. Happy New Year to you all!

• #### Victoria32

##### Senior Member
Someone sent me a sentence which reads "Large numbers of people is protesting outside." and asked me to correct it. I wrote "A large number of people are protesting outside." to him.

The next day, he sent me a message and said that his teacher told him that "Large numbers of..." is a correct expression. But I always hear "A number of people are...", not "Numbers of people are..." I would like your confirmation.

Thanks a lot.

Anais

p.s. Happy New Year to you all!
I have heard 'large numbers of people are', on news bulletins and the like. It suggests to me, clumps of people - 10 or so in a clump, and then there are 15 clumps... each clump is a "number of people"... I really had to stop and think about it. I have definitely heard it, and that's all I can say at present. I am very tired! (New Year... you know how it is..)

Vicky

#### maxiogee

##### Banned
"Large numbers of" is acceptable, but I would be careful of when and how it is used.

I would be happy with the concept of "large numbers are" - for instance —> Large numbers are gathering in cities all across Ireland to protest…
But these need to be discrete units - I cannot understand the use of the plural in the sentence given - where there is one protest and it is outside the one location — "Large numbers of people is protesting outside." is doubly wrong. (a) for using the singular 'is' and (b) for using the plural 'numbers' in relation to a single protesting crowd.
Were it a piece of journalism I would assume that someone had re-written a sentence which began "Large numbers of people are assembling for a protest outside. The crowd is protesting …"

#### Anais Ninn

##### Senior Member
Vicky,

Thanks a lot. I think I've heard or read "large numbers of people..." before but I am curious whether it is grammatically correct or not. After I clicked the submit button, I remembered that I have, in deed, heard or read "numbers of people..." as well. (Too much champagne last night) Hmmm...I guess it is grammatically correct. Other opinions?

Anais

I have heard 'large numbers of people are', on news bulletins and the like. It suggests to me, clumps of people - 10 or so in a clump, and then there are 15 clumps... each clump is a "number of people"... I really had to stop and think about it. I have definitely heard it, and that's all I can say at present. I am very tired! (New Year... you know how it is..)

Vicky

#### Anais Ninn

##### Senior Member
Thanks, maxiogee.

"The crowd is protesting" sounds fine but would you say "A number of people is protesting."? Hmmm...this sounds odd to my ears. (I lived in Illinois for a lengthy period of time.) Could it be the BrE/AmE difference?

Anais

"Large numbers of" is acceptable, but I would be careful of when and how it is used.

I would be happy with the concept of "large numbers are" - for instance —> Large numbers are gathering in cities all across Ireland to protest…
But these need to be discrete units - I cannot understand the use of the plural in the sentence given - where there is one protest and it is outside the one location — "Large numbers of people is protesting outside." is doubly wrong. (a) for using the singular 'is' and (b) for using the plural 'numbers' in relation to a single protesting crowd.
Were it a piece of journalism I would assume that someone had re-written a sentence which began "Large numbers of people are assembling for a protest outside. The crowd is protesting …"

#### maxiogee

##### Banned
Thanks, maxiogee.

"The crowd is protesting" sounds fine but would you say "A number of people is protesting."? Hmmm...this sounds odd to my ears. (I lived in Illinois for a lengthy period of time.) Could it be the BrE/AmE difference?

Anais

No, I wouldn't say "a number of people is protesting."
My points were that "Large numbers of people is protesting outside." is wrong for using the singular 'is' and for using the plural 'numbers' in relation to a single protesting crowd.

In reference to a large cohesive crowd I wouldn't use "Large number/numbers" at all. It is a unit - "A huge crowd is…", or "Many people are…"

#### Anais Ninn

##### Senior Member
Ah! I got your point. Thanks for clearing that up.

Anais

No, I wouldn't say "a number of people is protesting."
My points were that "Large numbers of people is protesting outside." is wrong for using the singular 'is' and for using the plural 'numbers' in relation to a single protesting crowd.

In reference to a large cohesive crowd I wouldn't use "Large number/numbers" at all. It is a unit - "A huge crowd is…", or "Many people are…"

#### jacqui_80

##### New Member
How about: "a large crowd is protesting outside"? or if you really wanted to include the word people, then "a large crowd of people is protesting outside." Saying numbers of people requires too much brain pwoer to try figuring out whether the writer intended to write that or whether it was just the product of quick thinking.