matrimonio conjuncti usque ad finis ab sol

[Leenie]

We have just bought a new home and there is a stone engraved on the fireplace that reads:

matrimonio conjuncti usque ad finis ab sol

Can someone tell me what this means??

Thanks!

 

[walnut]

Hi Leenie and welcome to the WR Forums

It seems to be latin, so I'm moving this thread to the Other Languages Forum.

Ciao, Walnut

 

[Leenie]

Thank you!

 

[JJchang]

that sounds like "the marriage will last until the end of days"...

 

[Whodunit]

matrimonio conjuncti usque ad finis ab sol

In my opinion, it sounds like a gravestone for a couple:

For a united marriage until the end away from the sun/day/light.

 

[JJchang]

come on, it's not necessarily a gravestone....

 

[Whodunit]

come on, it's not necessarily a gravestone....

Ni hao JJchang,

But what about my translation? Doesn't it fit on a gravestone?

 

[JJchang]

ni hao to you too, whodunit,
it does fit on a gravestone. I personally find that statement quite cheesy for home decor.
(I'd prefer "you will enjoy potato" in Latin engraved on my fireplace, at least that's amusing)
Anyway, that's the meaning of the phrase...

 

[Anne345]

is not it

"matrimonio conjuncti usque ad finis ab solo" ?
united by marriage until at the end (united) by ground

 

[Whodunit]

isn't it

"matrimonio conjuncti usque ad finis ab solo" ?
united by marriage until at the end (united) by ground

If so ...

"matrimonio coniunctus usque ad finis ab sole" ?

My dictionary says the following:

sōl, sōlis m ...

Just for the record ...

it's "consonantic declension" like labor, rex, or civitas, so let me decline it:

sg.:
sol
solis
soli
solem
sole

pl.:
soles
solum
solibus
soles
solibus

After all, it should be "a sole", because "a" is a preposition before consonants and h, and "ab" is one before vowels. Got it?

 

[Leenie]

I'm glad to see that you are finding humor in the engraved stone on my fireplace. It might interest you both to know that the couple that built the house is now divorced!!!! My husband and I knew that the stone was related to marriage, but are not fluent in Latin by any means. That you for your help- and that gravestone idea gave me a good laugh! It is befitting of the couple that wrote it!

Leenie

 

[Anne345]

solo singular ablative from solum, i, n

 

[Whodunit]

solo singular ablative from solum, i, n

Well, may I ask you to decline "solum", please?

 

[Anne345]

2nd décinaison, as templum !
sg
nom. voc. ac. : solum
gen. : soli
dat. abl. solo
pl.
nom. voc. ac. : sola
gen. : solorum
dat. abl. solis

 

[Whodunit]

as templum !

NO!

My dictionary always suggest the genitive singular, and this time it said "solum, solis", okay?

 

[Anne345]

Change your dictionary !
from Perseus
solum#1 the lowest part, bottom, ground, base, foundation, floor, pavement, site
solô neut abl sg
solô neut dat sg

 

[Whodunit]

Change your dictionary !
from Perseus
solum#1 the lowest part, bottom, ground, base, foundation, floor, pavement, site
solô neut abl sg
solô neut dat sg

WRONG!!!

Scroll down until you see "3. mixed declension":

http://www.economicexpert.com/a/Latin:declension.html

 

[Anne345]

I know how decline "sol solis" but I am speaking about "solum soli" which belongs to the second declension. Do you really read my posts ?

 

[Whodunit]

I know how decline "sol solis" but I am speaking about "solum soli" which belongs to the second declension. Do you really read my posts ?

Well, okay, you're probably right about the declension. I persisted in "sol", and I'm sorry about that. But once again, "solum" doesn't make much sense in the original post, does it?

solum
soli
...

 

[Anne345]

They will remain united after death, in their tomb, under ground. Less poetic than in thesun, but more realistic !

 

[Whodunit]

They will remain united after death, in their tomb, under ground. Less poetic than in thesun, but more realistic !

I have to give up here.