Monday week
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The Prof
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England, English
'Monday week' means the same as 'a week on/next Monday'.
In other words, if this had been said to you today (Tuesday), I would assume that it did not mean the Monday of next week (12 August), but the Monday of the week after that (19 August).
In other words, if this had been said to you today (Tuesday), I would assume that it did not mean the Monday of next week (12 August), but the Monday of the week after that (19 August).
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JustKate
Senior Member
English - US
I think it's the same thing as what in AmE we'd refer to as "a week from next Monday." I do hope a BE speaker will correct me if I'm wrong, because this is something I've wondered off and on myself. So for example, next Monday is August 12 (or 12 August) - would "Monday week" mean "August 19"?
(Cross-posted with the Prof, who has answered my question. Thanks!)
(Cross-posted with the Prof, who has answered my question. Thanks!)
sdgraham
Senior Member
USA English
Yourdictionary.com says: "The definition of a Monday week is a period of seven days beginning with Monday."
That's the way I would define it as well.
"A week on Monday" meant nothing to me (AE) until I saw The Prof's definition..
Cross-cross posted.
That's the way I would define it as well.
"A week on Monday" meant nothing to me (AE) until I saw The Prof's definition..
Cross-cross posted.
The Prof
Senior Member
England, English
In that case, we would simply say "next Monday". "Monday week" means next Monday plus one week.
(And actually, I was always taught that here in the UK a week officially begins on Sunday, though that does not have any bearing on the expression in question.)
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sdgraham
Senior Member
USA English
You're asking why you cannot use an expression with a meaning other than that in common usage and found in dictionaries.
The answer to that should be obvious.
Don't get hung up by your suggestion that weeks start with a Monday (in the U.S. it does not). Here "week" just means seven days.
Edit: if you're talking about Aug. 12, use The Prof's good advice above.
We've had some similar discussions before. For example, have a look at:
a week from Tuesday
Thursday week 8a.m.
a week Thursday
This Thursday Next Thursday
It would seem that there is much variation. Monday week is not an expression I would use but I've heard it used. I would say 'a week on Monday' for 'the coming Monday + one week' (like what JustKate said), and this is how I would understand 'Monday week' to mean that.
a week from Tuesday
Thursday week 8a.m.
a week Thursday
This Thursday Next Thursday
It would seem that there is much variation. Monday week is not an expression I would use but I've heard it used. I would say 'a week on Monday' for 'the coming Monday + one week' (like what JustKate said), and this is how I would understand 'Monday week' to mean that.
goldencypress
Senior Member
India - Malayalam
Is there such a usage as "The Monday after next" next meaning next Monday?Yourdictionary.com says: "The definition of a Monday week is a period of seven days beginning with Monday."
That's the way I would define it as well.
"A week on Monday" meant nothing to me (AE) until I saw The Prof's definition..
Cross-cross posted.
No. That is not what it means at all.
If, on the red Tuesday, you say, "The Monday after next", you mean the blue Monday
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
Sunday, Monday (the Monday after next), Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday,
goldencypress
Senior Member
India - Malayalam
If on red Tuesday, I said Monday week it would mean the blue Monday, wouldn't it? So doesn't "Monday week" and "the Monday after next" mean the same thing? Is there really such a usage as "the Monday after next"?
goldencypress
Senior Member
India - Malayalam
Today is Saturday. I have marked THIS Wednesday and Wednesday WEEK. Am I correct?
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday (This Wednesday)
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday (Wednesday week)
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday (This Wednesday)
Thursday
Friday
Saturday
Sunday
Monday
Tuesday
Wednesday (Wednesday week)
Yes. There could be situations in which one or both might be inappropriate.
Yes, I've heard it.
I assume you mean today is the Saturday before the first day in the list, which is Sunday. I wouldn't use "this Wednesday" but "Wednesday next week". You're correct with your use of "Wednesday week".
goldencypress
Senior Member
India - Malayalam
Thank you, Barque
Today is Saturday 17th March.
If you said this Wednesday, I would understand that to mean the Wednesday of the same week - ie 14th March.
I would refer to 21st March as next Wednesday or the coming Wednesday.
If you said Wednesday week, I would understand that to mean 28th March. It is not a term I use; I might say a week on Wednesday or even the second Wednesday from today or the Wednesday after next.
If you said this Wednesday, I would understand that to mean the Wednesday of the same week - ie 14th March.
I would refer to 21st March as next Wednesday or the coming Wednesday.
If you said Wednesday week, I would understand that to mean 28th March. It is not a term I use; I might say a week on Wednesday or even the second Wednesday from today or the Wednesday after next.
Chasint
Senior Member
English - England
That is correct. However for 'this Wednesday' you can also say 'on Wednesday'.E.g.
I'm going to visit my friend this Wednesday = I'm going to visit my friend on Wednesday
Also
I'm going to visit my friend a week on Wednesday = I'm going to visit my friend Wednesday week.
goldencypress
Senior Member
India - Malayalam
Thank you, natkretep. You have made things perfectly clear.
goldencypress
Senior Member
India - Malayalam
E.g.
I'm going to visit my friend this Wednesday = I'm going to visit my friend on Wednesday
Also
Can't "I am going to visit my friend on Wednesday" mean ANY Wednesday? I don't think it is very specific.
You can see the danger of saying "this Wednesday". natkretep sees it as possibly being in the past, Chasint sees it as being in the future (as do I). If today is Saturday 17 March then Wednesday 14 March is, for me, "last Wednesday", not "this Wednesday".
And do not ever say "Wednesday next" - which to some people means "next Wednesday" and to others means "a week on Wednesday". I haven't heard it for a while, but remember it causing confusion when I was young.
Chasint
Senior Member
English - England
In fact there is a confusion in the English language (In Britain anyway). Different people use 'next' in different ways. This applies to transport as well.
I'm getting off at the next stop. For some native speakers this means the nearest stop. For others it means the one after that. It is a constant source of confusion!
I personally avoid this by saying, I'm getting off at this stop or I'm getting off at the stop after this one.
In the US, a week is seven days, but all Americans say next week when a day is referred to after a weekend. Americans think in terms of workdays being Monday through Friday. So if it’s Friday, we might say “next Tuesday“ for the first Tuesday to follow or we might say “Tuesday next week” because it is after the weekend. For a week after or from the coming Tuesday, we say it that way or “a week from Tuesday” or a week after next Tuesday.. Only in Britain do they use “Tuesday week“ to mean the week after the next Tuesday.
goldencypress
Senior Member
India - Malayalam
Can we say the Tuesday after next (Tuesday)?
Wordy McWordface
Senior Member
SSBE (Standard Southern British English)
Yes, you can say 'the Tuesday after next'. Today is Sunday. If you say this today, we understand that you're talking about the Tuesday nine days from now.
(The repeated word 'Tuesday' that you have in brackets at the end of the phrase is understood but not said)
(The repeated word 'Tuesday' that you have in brackets at the end of the phrase is understood but not said)
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