# MSA/PA: x times as heavy as

#### Grapez

##### Senior Member
I would you say the expression:

"This is 12 times as heavy as that"

or

"That is 50 times as large as this"

I understand that مضاعف is used but not exactly sure how it should be phrased?

• #### إسكندراني

##### Senior Member
In Egypt we say:
س أتقل ١٨ مرة من ص
X is 18 times heavier than Y
س تقله ١٨ ضعف تقل ص
the weight of X is 18 times the weight of Y
Palestinian would be very similar.

#### AndyRoo

##### Senior Member
I think in MSA:
وزن س خمسون أضعاف وزن ص

#### Mahaodeh

##### Senior Member
You mean: خمسون ضعف. After 10 you use the singular not the plural for المعدود.

#### AndyRoo

##### Senior Member
You mean: خمسون ضعف. After 10 you use the singular not the plural for المعدود.
Oh yes - thank you.

#### إسكندراني

##### Senior Member
وزن س خمسين ضعف وزن ص is fine in Egyptian too.

#### Grapez

##### Senior Member
Thanks for the replies.

Would one still use "ضعف" for fractions?

Or would one just use the fractions? Like if I wanted to say, my bowl of kushri is 4 times smaller than his, do I have to say it like:

الكوشري بطاعتي ربع من بتاعته

or is there another version using اضاعف or منقسم

#### Mahaodeh

##### Senior Member
Not to my knowledge, you don't even need to use the من; I believe it should be: الكوشري بتاعي ربع بتاعه.

#### إسكندراني

##### Senior Member
Would one still use "ضعف" for fractions?

Or would one just use the fractions? Like if I wanted to say, my bowl of kushri is 4 times smaller than his, do I have to say it like:

الكوشري بطاعتي ربع من بتاعته

or is there another version using اضاعف or منقسم
س أتقل ٤ مرّات من ص
س أصغر ٤ مرّات من ص
إلخ.
This is probably the easiest way to do all of them in Egyptian.

#### suma

##### Senior Member
Not to my knowledge, you don't even need to use the من; I believe it should be: الكوشري بتاعي ربع بتاعه.
Essentially it's the same, but I would have translated it "my bowl of kushri is ¼ size of his."

#### elroy

##### Imperfect Mod
Palestinian:

س أتقل من ص ١٢ مرة
س أكبر من ص ٥٠ مرة

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