That sounds about right - I prefer nevertheless because it sounds better (to me). Generally, they don't add much meaning to the sentence.cuchuflete said:For ".uk" sites, nevertheless wins by about 7 million to 2 million.
This is my understanding as well (four years later). Beautifully stated.Event1 nevertheless Event2.
Event2 occurs depsite Event1.
"Even though he didn't want  to go, he nevertheless got on  the train."
Event1 nonetheless Event2.
Event1 did not diminish the quantity of Event2 ("no less").
"Even though his work was highly criticized , he was nonetheless pleased  with the result."
The Collins Dictionary of the English Language agrees with you, Wordperfection, inasmuch (or should that be "in as much"? ) as it calls "nonetheless" a "sentence connector" and gives the meaning as "despite that", "however" and "nevertheless".There is an important difference in meaning between the two forms. They are simply not alternative ways of writing the same thing.
E.g. Though his book "What a disaster" was rightly slated by the critics, XXX was nonetheless a great novelist.
YYY's career as a novelist was none the less impressive for having been so short.
Sorry, there is no such thing as logic in language. In British English, as recorded by the Concise Oxford English Dictionary, nonetheless is the normative form and none the less is the less common alternative.It is logical to write "none the less", as it is three seperate words, just as you would write "a lot" or "thank you", easy as that. Personally I would never include such an untidy conglomeration of words in my writing. "None the less" is three seperate words, no matter how common the combination is.
Welcome to the forum, RobbieIt is logical to write "none the less", as it is three seperate words, just as you would write "a lot" or "thank you", easy as that. Personally I would never include such an untidy conglomeration of words in my writing. "None the less" is three seperate words, no matter how common the combination is.
I'm a bit puzzled by this comment: I can detect no hint of "quantity" in nonetheless or "time" in nevertheless.I was thinking that "nonetheless" should be to "nevertheless", at least a little bit like "none" is to "never".
[...]I think the distinction is minor enough to usually warrant using whichever word sounds better. But, if being extremely strict, "nonetheless" should relate to quantity and "nevertheless" to time. Whichever is closer. Somehow.
Pertinax's comments pretty much describe my usage, too.I cannot discern any distinction between the two.
I prefer "nevertheless" for the rhythm, and because it is slightly easier to get your tongue around.
I think there are circumstances where none the less has the sense of 'in no way less', certainly as I use it, and that amounts to more than a hint of quantity.I'm a bit puzzled by this comment: I can detect no hint of "quantity" in nonetheless or "time" in nevertheless.
This is a very useful example....
'It was an important part of Marshall's thought [...], none the less because he believed that it was through speculation or speculative investment that the new money found its way out into the world.'