That sounds about right - I prefer nevertheless because it sounds better (to me). Generally, they don't add much meaning to the sentence.cuchuflete said:For ".uk" sites, nevertheless wins by about 7 million to 2 million.
Event1 nevertheless Event2.
Event2 occurs depsite Event1.
"Even though he didn't want [1] to go, he nevertheless got on [2] the train."
Event1 nonetheless Event2.
Event1 did not diminish the quantity of Event2 ("no less").
"Even though his work was highly criticized [1], he was nonetheless pleased [2] with the result."
The Collins Dictionary of the English Language agrees with you, Wordperfection, inasmuch (or should that be "in as much"?There is an important difference in meaning between the two forms. They are simply not alternative ways of writing the same thing.
E.g. Though his book "What a disaster" was rightly slated by the critics, XXX was nonetheless a great novelist.
YYY's career as a novelist was none the less impressive for having been so short.
Sorry, there is no such thing as logic in language. In British English, as recorded by the Concise Oxford English Dictionary, nonetheless is the normative form and none the less is the less common alternative.It is logical to write "none the less", as it is three seperate words, just as you would write "a lot" or "thank you", easy as that. Personally I would never include such an untidy conglomeration of words in my writing. "None the less" is three seperate words, no matter how common the combination is.
Welcome to the forum, RobbieIt is logical to write "none the less", as it is three seperate words, just as you would write "a lot" or "thank you", easy as that. Personally I would never include such an untidy conglomeration of words in my writing. "None the less" is three seperate words, no matter how common the combination is.
I'm a bit puzzled by this comment: I can detect no hint of "quantity" in nonetheless or "time" in nevertheless.I was thinking that "nonetheless" should be to "nevertheless", at least a little bit like "none" is to "never".
[...]I think the distinction is minor enough to usually warrant using whichever word sounds better. But, if being extremely strict, "nonetheless" should relate to quantity and "nevertheless" to time. Whichever is closer. Somehow.
Pertinax's comments pretty much describe my usage, tooI cannot discern any distinction between the two.
I prefer "nevertheless" for the rhythm, and because it is slightly easier to get your tongue around.
I think there are circumstances where none the less has the sense of 'in no way less', certainly as I use it, and that amounts to more than a hint of quantity.I'm a bit puzzled by this comment: I can detect no hint of "quantity" in nonetheless or "time" in nevertheless.
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I agree, TT. But then, for me, "none the less" and "nonetheless" are completely differentI think there are circumstances where none the less has the sense of 'in no way less', certainly as I use it, and that amounts to more than a hint of quantity.
Yes, and I agree with you, Loobo. I wonder if, for some people, the quantitive aspect of the one carries over into the other.I agree, TT. But then, for me, "none the less" and "nonetheless" are completely different.
This is a very useful example....
'It was an important part of Marshall's thought [...], none the less because he believed that it was through speculation or speculative investment that the new money found its way out into the world.'
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