Northern Ireland = British?

Discussion in 'Cultural Discussions' started by Whisky con ron, Oct 14, 2005.

  1. Pedro y La Torre Senior Member

    Paris, France
    English (Ireland)
    West Britain might not have caught on, but West Brits abound. :)
     
  2. Schmizzkazz

    Schmizzkazz Senior Member

    Badischer Schwarzwald
    German - Southern German
    Some people always confuse two things:


    a) how things should be
    b) and how things are
     
  3. L'irlandais

    L'irlandais Senior Member

    Dreyeckland/Alsace region
    Ireland: English-speaking ♂
    The United Kingdom is a (unitary) sovereign state. Great Britain is an Island.

    So for my money, sovereignty relates to the United Kingdom and not to Great Britain.
    I hope this doesn't just add to the confusion.
     
  4. Schmizzkazz

    Schmizzkazz Senior Member

    Badischer Schwarzwald
    German - Southern German
    I would call the island just Britain - not Great Britain.

    And: Britain + Ireland = the British Isles
     
  5. Pedro y La Torre Senior Member

    Paris, France
    English (Ireland)
    You're not wrong, but many Irish people will object to the term British Isles.
     
  6. L'irlandais

    L'irlandais Senior Member

    Dreyeckland/Alsace region
    Ireland: English-speaking ♂
    Great Britain (sometimes just referred to as ‘Britain’)
    Technically, if you lose the ‘Great,’ Britain only refers to England and Wales.
    Source : ordnance survey blog

    British Isles = Great Britain + Ireland + about 5000 other smaller islands of the coasts of both of these.

    Geography Matters! ;)
     
  7. Stoggler

    Stoggler Senior Member

    Sussex, GBR
    UK English
    I've seen that webpage before and, frankly, I don't believe that little paragraph about Britain being just England and Wales. I've never seen that assertion anywhere else and I have never heard anyone use Britain in that way.

    Unfortunately the writer of that webpage doesn't give any explanation why Britain could mean just England and Wales.

    The rest of the page is fine though.
     
  8. ewie

    ewie Senior Member

    Elsewhere
    English English
    This is news to me too:confused::confused::confused:
    Curiously, I've never heard anyone in England object to the term Irish Sea:cool:
     
  9. merquiades

    merquiades Senior Member

    Lorraine in France
    English (US Northeast)
    I learnt that Great Britain is a direct Latin translation of Britannia Maior (larger Britain) which contasts it from Britannia Minor (smaller Britain) which was northen France, as seen in the name Brittany today.
     
  10. Doraemon- Senior Member

    Spain
    "Spanish - Spain" "Catalan - Valencia"
  11. Doraemon- Senior Member

    Spain
    "Spanish - Spain" "Catalan - Valencia"
    Not exactly.
    For the Romans Britannia was only Great Britain (both the island ant the southern part they conquered), and not northern France at all (Gallia).
    At the time of the anglosaxon/germanic invasion of Great Britain some invaded celtic britons moved to/invaded current Britanny (Bretagne, Breizh), taking this name (Britannia Minor) because they came from Britannia, such as later "New England".
    But not northern France, in general.
     
  12. AutumnOwl Senior Member

    -
    Swedish
    Does this mean an annexation of the Faroe Islands, Iceland, Jan Mayen, Svalbard and Greenland? I think the Nordic countries would protest.
     
  13. L'irlandais

    L'irlandais Senior Member

    Dreyeckland/Alsace region
    Ireland: English-speaking ♂
    Have no fear AutumnOwl John Henry Newman was a peaceful man, he was referring to the "islands of Britannia and Hibernia"
     

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