Pronunciation of words ending in 're'

kaleidoscopic21

New Member
English - Australia
I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place, I'm new here.
With words ending in 're' like votre, septembre and attendre, do you pronounce the 're' as a separate syllable (vot-re, septemb-re), or do you tack the 'r' onto the end of the preceeding syllable (votr, septembr)? Can either be used, and if so what's the difference between the pronunciations?
 
  • janpol

    Senior Member
    France - français
    a(t)-tendr, sep-tembr
    L'étendue est immense, et les champs n'ont point d'ombre (Leconte de Lisle - "Midi")
    en poésie, le "e" se prononce s'il est suivi d'une consonne dans le corps du vers
    /L'é/ten/due/ est/ im/men/set/les /champs/ n'ont/ point/ d'ombr / (e final muet)
    En un creux du bois sombre interdit au soleil (Leconte de Lisle)
    /En/ un/ creux/ du/ bois/som/brin/ter/dit/ au /so/leil/ e muet(som/brin ) car il est suivi par une voyelle
    Elle ondule, épiant l'ombre des rameaux lourds (Leconte de Lisle)
    /El/lon/du/lé/pi/iant /l'om/bre /des/ ra/meaux /lourds/ (Leconte de Lisle) (e de "ombre" sonore car il est suivi d'une consonne)
     

    Oddmania

    Senior Member
    French
    do you tack the 'r' onto the end of the preceeding syllable (votr, septembr)?
    Yes :thumbsup:

    Votre [vɔtʁ] : try sounding the first syllable first ("vɔ"), and then say "tr" as in the word "très". No vowel sound, only a T followed by an R (try saying très and stop in the middle of the word, right after the R). That being said, we might add a schwa (a short, unstressed uh sound) after the R when another word (starting with a consonant) comes afterwards: votre maison [vɔtʁə.mɛzɔ̃].

    It probably isn't so much of a schwa as it is the natural movement of the mouth to transition from the R sound to the M sound. In Southern accents, the schwa sound is stronger.
     
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