Pronunciation of words ending in 're'


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English - Australia
I'm sorry if this is in the wrong place, I'm new here.
With words ending in 're' like votre, septembre and attendre, do you pronounce the 're' as a separate syllable (vot-re, septemb-re), or do you tack the 'r' onto the end of the preceeding syllable (votr, septembr)? Can either be used, and if so what's the difference between the pronunciations?
  • janpol

    Senior Member
    France - français
    a(t)-tendr, sep-tembr
    L'étendue est immense, et les champs n'ont point d'ombre (Leconte de Lisle - "Midi")
    en poésie, le "e" se prononce s'il est suivi d'une consonne dans le corps du vers
    /L'é/ten/due/ est/ im/men/set/les /champs/ n'ont/ point/ d'ombr / (e final muet)
    En un creux du bois sombre interdit au soleil (Leconte de Lisle)
    /En/ un/ creux/ du/ bois/som/brin/ter/dit/ au /so/leil/ e muet(som/brin ) car il est suivi par une voyelle
    Elle ondule, épiant l'ombre des rameaux lourds (Leconte de Lisle)
    /El/lon/du/lé/pi/iant /l'om/bre /des/ ra/meaux /lourds/ (Leconte de Lisle) (e de "ombre" sonore car il est suivi d'une consonne)


    Senior Member
    do you tack the 'r' onto the end of the preceeding syllable (votr, septembr)?
    Yes :thumbsup:

    Votre [vɔtʁ] : try sounding the first syllable first ("vɔ"), and then say "tr" as in the word "très". No vowel sound, only a T followed by an R (try saying très and stop in the middle of the word, right after the R). That being said, we might add a schwa (a short, unstressed uh sound) after the R when another word (starting with a consonant) comes afterwards: votre maison [vɔtʁə.mɛzɔ̃].

    It probably isn't so much of a schwa as it is the natural movement of the mouth to transition from the R sound to the M sound. In Southern accents, the schwa sound is stronger.
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