Hi, this is a dialogue in a Hindi movie. Does it mean, Ishq ki nishaani yeh hai ki agar ek baar jid kar li, to use poori karne ne ke liye miT jaayenge?
I would appreciate a word by word breakup
I would appreciate a word by word breakup
Punjabi: Ishq di mere mitra pehchaan ki. Mit jaave jadon jid apnan di
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Illuminatus, I'm just hazarding a guess here. It is kind of hard to deduce for several reasons. One, filmi Panjabi is nonstandard and mixed librally with Hindi/Urdu, so that final <kii> in the first sentence could be the past tense of the transitive verb <karnaa>, except for the fact that one never really mixes <pahchanaa> and <karnaa>, correct? The second issue is of course transliteration.
In the first Panjabi sentence, I don't think there is a stated verb. The final <kii> appears to be the interrogative Hindi <kyaa>. So maybe a word for word Hindi translation could be <ishq kii mere dost (ko) kyaa pahchaan (hai)>. I.e., "my friend is incapable of recognizing love."
The second sentence is also perplexing me because of the last two words. I have never heard <aapNaa dii>. We would say <aapNii> (Hindi: <apni>). Or it could be <apaa.n dii>, which we would say as <saaDii> (Hindi: <hamaarii>). I'm leaning towards the second. <miT jaayee jab zid hamaarii>.
Let's wait on Huhmzah.
In the first Panjabi sentence, I don't think there is a stated verb. The final <kii> appears to be the interrogative Hindi <kyaa>. So maybe a word for word Hindi translation could be <ishq kii mere dost (ko) kyaa pahchaan (hai)>. I.e., "my friend is incapable of recognizing love."
The second sentence is also perplexing me because of the last two words. I have never heard <aapNaa dii>. We would say <aapNii> (Hindi: <apni>). Or it could be <apaa.n dii>, which we would say as <saaDii> (Hindi: <hamaarii>). I'm leaning towards the second. <miT jaayee jab zid hamaarii>.
Let's wait on Huhmzah.
Thanks, gator but I think you went off at a tangent here.
The Internet source I copied it from placed a period, which I think is incorrect.
Let me, er, Hindi-fy it.
Original: Ishq di mere mitra pehchaan ki. Mit jaave jadon jid apnan di
Hindi: Ishq ki, dosto.n, pehchan (hai) ki, mit jaae.in, agar jid apna lee.
<apnan di> means <apna lee>, I think.
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I was simultaneously Googling, and I realized we are both on different tracks, none of which is correct. This thread on another site discusses this dialogue. Although those guys haven't reached a consensus, it seems their stuff is consistent enough.
http://www.bollywoodlyrics.com/cs/forums/t/2670.aspx
The Internet source I copied it from placed a period, which I think is incorrect.
Let me, er, Hindi-fy it.
Original: Ishq di mere mitra pehchaan ki. Mit jaave jadon jid apnan di
Hindi: Ishq ki, dosto.n, pehchan (hai) ki, mit jaae.in, agar jid apna lee.
<apnan di> means <apna lee>, I think.
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I was simultaneously Googling, and I realized we are both on different tracks, none of which is correct. This thread on another site discusses this dialogue. Although those guys haven't reached a consensus, it seems their stuff is consistent enough.
http://www.bollywoodlyrics.com/cs/forums/t/2670.aspx
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apnaan, I think, should be a masdar (Urdu = apnaana). So apnaan di means in Urdu apnaane kii
Litterally...
The mark of love, Friends, is when the desire (lit. stubbornness) to possess disappears...
Litterally...
The mark of love, Friends, is when the desire (lit. stubbornness) to possess disappears...
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Illum jadon is jab while je is agar
That's it. It was hard for me to recognize without the retroflex N there (<apnaaN/apnauN>).
"True love does not mean getting your loved one in your own life but to see your loved one always happy..."
"The meaning of true love is not to possess."
Cilqi has given succinct and exact translation.
The true essence of being in love is self effacement.
Ishq- Passion in love
di- Of
Mitra- O my friend
Pehchan- What is the sign of?
ki- Here means what
Second line gives the answer to the query in the first line.
Mit Jaye- effaced, wiped out, destroyed.
jadon- when
jid- Zidd, Stubborness, Obstinacy
apanaun, apnan- to own, to possess.
di- of
The true essence of being in love is self effacement.
Ishq- Passion in love
di- Of
Mitra- O my friend
Pehchan- What is the sign of?
ki- Here means what
Second line gives the answer to the query in the first line.
Mit Jaye- effaced, wiped out, destroyed.
jadon- when
jid- Zidd, Stubborness, Obstinacy
apanaun, apnan- to own, to possess.
di- of
Ishq di mere mitra pehchaan ki. Mit jaave jadon jid apnan di
The real meaning of this is
Ishq di mere mitra o pehchan ki
Ishq ki mere yaar pehchan yehi hai
Mitt jaave jadon jid apnan di
ki jab paane ki jid mit jaye
means "sache pyar ka matlab sirf pana hi nahi hota"
The real meaning of this is
Ishq di mere mitra o pehchan ki
Ishq ki mere yaar pehchan yehi hai
Mitt jaave jadon jid apnan di
ki jab paane ki jid mit jaye
means "sache pyar ka matlab sirf pana hi nahi hota"
It means: Ishq di (Love's) mere (my) mittra (friend/beloved) pehchan ( identity ) ki (what)
Je (if) mitt jaave (gets diminished) zidd(stubbornness) apnaan di (of acceptance)
In the context of the movie, the girl and guy meet after years
then the guy says: What would be the identity or the recognition of my love towards you oh my beloved! , if my stubbornness to accept and make you my own is dead.
The guy is letting her go yet is so determined that she will be his.
Je (if) mitt jaave (gets diminished) zidd(stubbornness) apnaan di (of acceptance)
In the context of the movie, the girl and guy meet after years
then the guy says: What would be the identity or the recognition of my love towards you oh my beloved! , if my stubbornness to accept and make you my own is dead.
The guy is letting her go yet is so determined that she will be his.