Sama

Belenka

Member
Russia
Hello there,

i've just come to know that "sama" is a Japanese equivalent of Mr and Mrs, but that you have to put it after your name. for example, K.Fujiwara sama. is this right? is there a coma between the name and "sama"?
thank you for your reply!
 
  • Bowlinguist

    New Member
    Japanese
    Hello there,

    i've just come to know that "sama" is a Japanese equivalent of Mr and Mrs, but that you have to put it after your name. for example, K.Fujiwara sama. is this right? is there a coma between the name and "sama"?
    thank you for your reply!

    "sama" is one of the honorifc suffixes often used in Japanese and is used to show more respect and courtesy as compared to "san" a more commonly used honorifc. Fujiwara sama is correct. I would put - between them or simply leave a blank as you did. Good luck on your study :)
     

    Flaminius

    hedomodo
    日本語 / japāniski / יפנית
    Welcome to Japnaese Forum. 日本語フォーラムへようこそ、 Belenka!
    Sama is not Mr. or Mrs. It is more an arcane title used mainly in writing letters.

    Usually we go by san. E.g., Mr. Fujiwara is 藤原さん or Fujiwara-san.
    Note: I use hyphen to separate the name and the title but others may use space. There is no official notation.
     

    gaer

    Senior Member
    US-English
    Welcome to Japnaese Forum. 日本語フォーラムへようこそ、 Belenka!
    Sama is not Mr. or Mrs. It is more an arcane title used mainly in writing letters.

    Usually we go by san. E.g., Mr. Fujiwara is 藤原さん or Fujiwara-san.
    Note: I use hyphen to separate the name and the title but others may use space. There is no official notation.
    I have a question that I think is related, and I have never understood what is correct.

    Suppose that I write a letter to Mr. AND Mrs. Fujiwara: how would I do that?

    Gaer
     

    Hiro Sasaki

    Banned
    Japan, Japanese
    Gaer san,

    藤原様 is Mr. OR Mrs. In Tokio, they use more often "Fujiwara sama "
    than in Osaka, in prestigious restaurants, and in business contacts.

    Elderly high society woman even say あなたの おかあさま 

    Hiro Sasaki 
     

    gaer

    Senior Member
    US-English
    Gaer san,

    藤原様 is Mr. OR Mrs. In Tokio, they use more often "Fujiwara sama " than in Osaka, in prestigious restaurants, and in business contacts.

    Elderly high society woman even say あなたの おかあさま 

    Hiro Sasaki 
    Sasaki-san,

    Thank you for clearing that up. I have so many questions because I know so little. :)

    ゲーリー
     

    SpiceMan

    Senior Member
    Castellano, Argentina
    i've just come to know that "sama" is a Japanese equivalent of Mr and Mrs, but that you have to put it after your name.
    You NEVER put it after your own name, you ONLY add suffixes to other people's names.

    The only exception are girls talking "cute" about themselves adding "chan" to their own names. Eg, a girl called Ai saying "aichan wa shitakunai!" to say "I don't want to do it".
     

    gaer

    Senior Member
    US-English
    You NEVER put it after your own name, you ONLY add suffixes to other people's names.

    The only exception are girls talking "cute" about themselves adding "chan" to their own names. Eg, a girl called Ai saying "aichan wa shitakunai!" to say "I don't want to do it".
    Actually, it's usually considered impolite for us to use "Mr." or "Mrs." with our own names, especially as a signature.

    I would address someone else as "Mr. Smith". But I would only sign my first and last name. I would never use "Mr."

    Gaer
     

    Hiro Sasaki

    Banned
    Japan, Japanese
    Gaer san,

    I don't know sure the intention of the remark of Spiceman. But, I sometimes heard the beginners of Japanese language saying " Watashi wa sumisu san desu" or " Watashi Hose kun desu. " That sounds funny of course.

    But, in the Spanish speaking world, I think that in some cases, they write
    " Sr. Jose Carlos Alonso Huertas " to himself to make it clear que he is not
    a woman, I suppose.


    Many people who are learning Japanese have different cultural backgrounds linguistically. Many people believe errouneouly that
    the native speakers of English who don't know nothing of Japanese
    language and Japanese culture can be good teachers of English,
    because their minds and English are not "polluted" by the Japanese
    way of thinking.

    Hiro Sasaki
     

    timpeac

    Senior Member
    English (England)
    In English I've never seen someone refer to themselves in writing as Mr John Smith. I think the formal accepted written form is John Smith Esq. ("Esq" is short for "esquire" (and pronounced "esquire" too)).
     

    SpiceMan

    Senior Member
    Castellano, Argentina
    Gaer san,

    I don't know sure the intention of the remark of Spiceman. But, I sometimes heard the beginners of Japanese language saying " Watashi wa sumisu san desu" or " Watashi Hose kun desu. " That sounds funny of course.
    Yes, that was exactly what I was thinking.

    But, in the Spanish speaking world, I think that in some cases, they write
    " Sr. Jose Carlos Alonso Huertas " to himself to make it clear que he is not
    a woman, I suppose.
    I think I've never seen that, and I would consider it wrong.
     

    gaer

    Senior Member
    US-English
    Gaer san,

    I don't know sure the intention of the remark of Spiceman. But, I sometimes heard the beginners of Japanese language saying " Watashi wa sumisu san desu" or " Watashi Hose kun desu. " That sounds funny of course.
    I understand.
    Many people who are learning Japanese have different cultural backgrounds linguistically. Many people believe errouneouly that the native speakers of English who know nothing of the Japanese language and Japanese culture can be good teachers of English,because their minds and English are not "polluted" by the Japanese way of thinking.
    If you mean that they are good teachers for Japanese people, I think this is probably a very wrong assumption. I would much rather get help with Japanese from someone in Japan who also knows English well. Such a person, I believe, is more likely to understand my problems!

    Gaer
     
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