Senza lode, senza infamia

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Senza lode e senza infamia
Is there a in English a traslation or way of saying with the same concept of this Italian way of saying?

 

[vincenzochiaravalle]

"Without praise or blame"

V.

 

[Memimao]

"Without praise or blame"

V.

Doesn't carry the same sense, but can't think of anything better. With no highs or lows (?)

 

[housecameron]

Credo che il detto corretto sia:
"Senza infamia e senza lode"
("Senza infamia né lode")

 

[vincenzochiaravalle]

Credo che il detto corretto sia:
"Senza infamia e senza lode"
("Senza infamia né lode")

Dear friend,

The position of "lode" and "infamia" is indifferent, I think we agree on that. The difference - if any - lies in the message you wish to convey:

Senza lode e senza infamia -
I wasn't praised, but neither was I blamed (I'm satisfied with not having been blamed )

Senza infamia e senza lode -
I wasn't blamed, but neither was I praised (I'm NOT satisfied, for I wasn't praised )

I believe I've never heard "senza lode NE' infamia": the phrase would be absolutely correct, I don't doubt it, but I've never heard it as a figure of speech...


Take care,

V.

 

[spero]

In some cases you can also say "neither good nor bad"...

 

[Blackman]

Divina Commedia, "Sanza infamia e sanza lodo"

 

[King Crimson]

Credo che il detto corretto sia:
"Senza infamia e senza lode"
("Senza infamia né lode")

 

[Blackman]

Senza dubbio. La Divina Commedia è considerata l'atto di nascita della Lingua Italiana, per cui possiamo dare per certo che la forma corretta sia quella che discende da li.