Sicilian: Picciriddo

[aerynsun]

Picirrido
Hello, this is my first post here, so please bear with me.
Can someone give me English translation of this word? It is a colloquial word for a small child that I came accross while watching a programme from Sicily, but I cannot find the English equivalent.
Thank you.

 

[winegrower]

I think that picciridu or picciriddu in Sicilian and Calabrian or piccirìllo in Neapolitan or piccirichi in Greek (this is a small world!) are all idiomatic terms meaning fanciullo, piccino= small child, kid. I don't suppose there's a specific equivalent in english. On dictionaries I found the terms: moppet and pee-wee but they are beyond my english!

 

[Murphy]

Have a look at this old thread: http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1047447

 

[Pitufa86]

I can confirm that picciriddu is a sicilian term. Picciriddu= little boy,kid.
we call picciriddu a little boy until the age of 10/11, afterwards we call him picciutteddu.

 

[k_georgiadis]

I think that picciridu or picciriddu in Sicilian and Calabrian or piccirìllo in Neapolitan or piccirichi in Greek (this is a small world!) are all idiomatic terms meaning fanciullo, piccino= small child, kid. I don't suppose there's a specific equivalent in english. On dictionaries I found the terms: moppet and pee-wee but they are beyond my english!

It all goes back to Magna Grecia.

 

[aerynsun]

Thank you all for your kind replies. The link to Ancient Greece was a fascinating bonus information!

 

[franz rod]

It all goes back to Magna Grecia.

Sembra invece di no. Deriva dalla radice "pic" (presente in piccolo ma anche in picca ad esempio) con l'aggiunta raddoppiata di "ilus" (cioè un "classico" diminutivo): picc-il-illu(m).

 

[k_georgiadis]

Sembra invece di no. Deriva dalla radice "pic" (presente in piccolo ma anche in picca ad esempio) con l'aggiunta raddoppiata di "ilus" (cioè un "classico" diminutivo): picc-il-illu(m).

What I really meant is that several Sicilian words found their way into Greek (and probably vice versa) because Greece started colonizing Sicily in 750 BC. I always thought that picciridu is an Italian word.

 

[franz rod]

Questo è indubbio, ma leggendo il tuo intervento sembra che la parola picciriddu derivi dal greco, mentre più presumibilmente dovrebbe derivare dal latino.

 

[k_georgiadis]

Questo è indubbio, ma leggendo il tuo intervento sembra che la parola picciriddu derivi dal greco, mentre più presumibilmente dovrebbe derivare dal latino.

That was not what I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Ermelinda85]

Ciao, devo tradurre un brano di Camilleri e non riesco a trovare l'equivalente inglese per il siciliano "picciriddo". Qualcuno mi sa aiutare? Grazie

 

[latex2e]

This is an old thread, but this is for reference:
In Romanian, we have "pici", also for a small kid. I only heard it in masculine "pici", with the definite article "piciul".

 

[Apollodorus]

The Wiktionary page on Sicilian “picciriddu” says: “Probably from an unattested Vulgar Latin *pittilillus, from *pittulus, from an earlier *piccus, borrowed from Proto-Celtic *bikkos (“small, little”). Cognate with Neapolitan piccerillo, and Greek πιτσιρίκος (pitsiríkos)”.

Babiniotis says that Greek “pitsirikos” (πιτσιρίκος) is from Italian “piccirillo” (“young child”) from piccino/piccinino, from Vulgar Latin pi(t)sinus/*pitzinninus.

As regards the Romanian word, according to the DEX Dictionary, “pici”, “little boy” is from Turkish “piç”.

But the Turkish word is said to mean “illegitimate child”.