sink or swim

Discussion in 'Ελληνικά (Greek)' started by sky candy, Dec 15, 2012.

  1. sky candy New Member

    Hi! I'm new on forum. I was wondering if the phrase sink or swim exist in greek version because I am thinking of that tattoo. I don't know anything about greek language so every help would be great! :)
  2. shawnee

    shawnee Senior Member

    English - Australian
    From a wikipedia list of Greek phrases:
    "ἢ τὰν ἢ ἐπὶ τᾶς
    Ḕ tā̀n ḕ epì tâs"Either [with] it [your shield], or on it"Meaning "either you will win the battle, or you will die and then be carried back home on your shield".It was said by Spartan mothers to their sons before they went out to battle to remind them of their bravery and duty to Sparta and Greece. A hoplite could not escape the field of battle unless he tossed away the heavy and cumbersome shield. Therefore losing one's shield meant desertion. (Plutarch, Moralia, 241)"
  3. velisarius Senior Member

    British English (Sussex)
    Shawnee's equivalent phrase is the one given by Wordreference dictionary at the top of this page ( but without his excellent explanation).
  4. sky candy New Member

    thank you very much, it helps a lot.. :)

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