Slovak: máš dôvod

[Setwale_Charm]

Ahoj!!
Frankly, I am not quite sure whether this is Czech or Slovak. This came as a reply to my sentence about me studying Czech and Slovak:
Super...mas dôvod
Co to znaci: dôvod?

 

[werrr]

Ahoj!!
Frankly, I am not quite sure whether this is Czech or Slovak. This came as a reply to my sentence about me studying Czech and Slovak:
Super...mas dôvod
Co to znaci: dôvod?

It’s broken Slovak (the “ô” should strike you), resp correct Slovak partly without accents.

“Dôvod” means “reason/cause/argument/motive”, it is also commonly, but erroneously, used as “purpose/aim/objective”.

 

[Azori]

“Dôvod” means “reason/cause/argument/motive”, it is also commonly, but erroneously, used as “purpose/aim/objective”.

I didn't know dôvod means purpose. Could you give an example?

 

[texpert]

Werr to asi myslel tak, že se dôvod používá ve smyslu účel/záměr/cíl. Přísně vzato totiž znamená jen příčinu. To však bude i případ anglického reason či motive, pokud se nemýlím?

 

[Azori]

A kde sa dôvod používa vo význame cieľ? Lebo v otázke "máš dôvod?" slovo dôvod znamená len príčinu, nie cieľ. Podľa mňa sú to slová s dosť odlišným významom aby sa mohli len tak zamieňať.

 

[Mišo]

dôvod
→ argument
→ causa
→ cause
→ found
→ ground
→ motive
→ purpose (of)
→ reason
→ reason (for)
→ room

 

[Azori]

Môj slovník to vykladá trochu inak.

 

[winpoj]

The last meaning really intrigues me, Mišo. Could you give us a sentence where "dôvod" would mean "room"?

 

[werrr]

A kde sa dôvod používa vo význame cieľ? Lebo v otázke "máš dôvod?" slovo dôvod znamená len príčinu, nie cieľ. Podľa mňa sú to slová s dosť odlišným významom aby sa mohli len tak zamieňať.

My point was the difference between “dôvod” and “účel/zámer”. I never raised the word “cieľ”.

Q: Z akého dôvodu?
A: Aby…

That’s the confusion I spoke about.

 

[werrr]

The last meaning really intrigues me, Mišo. Could you give us a sentence where "dôvod" would mean "room"?

Good question, the closest meaning of “room” I see here is “opportunity”, but that’s still far away.

 

[Mišo]

The last meaning really intrigues me, Mišo. Could you give us a sentence where "dôvod" would mean "room"?

No problems: "dôvod *zvýšenia cien" = "room for improvement".

*allowing

Good question, the closest meaning of “room” I see here is “opportunity”, but that’s still far away.

Very true, this may to fit like a glove: "opportunity for st.", I should just think so.
Consequently it seems so, this is not, say the least prima facie, as far away in English as in C&S.

 

[Azori]

Room for improvement = dôvod zvýšenia cien?? Hm, I would translate it as priestor, možnosť, dôvod na zlepšenie.

 

[texpert]

A kde sa dôvod používa vo význame cieľ? Lebo v otázke "máš dôvod?" slovo dôvod znamená len príčinu, nie cieľ. Podľa mňa sú to slová s dosť odlišným významom aby sa mohli len tak zamieňať.

Alespoň mám důvod tam jít.
I found a reason to keep living.
(nikoli překlad, ale dvě obvyklé věty, které se používají v CZ i EN).

 

[winpoj]

I must admit I don't understand Mišo's answer very well. Hope that others fare better.

 

[Mišo]

I must admit I don't understand Mišo's answer very well. Hope that others fare better.

Grammatically and terminologically, I do my best.

As pertains sentential or implication, all up is foolproof.
What I could have to written was inornately scripture.

 

[Azori]

As pertains sentential or implication, all up is foolproof.

Could you write this in Slovak please? I'm at my wits' end with this sentence.

 

[Mišo]

I do not see the only one valid room for coming up to expectations.

 

[Ayazid]

I do not see the only one valid room for coming up to expectations.

Nebylo by opravdu vhodnější vézt dál tuhle diskuzi česky/slovensky? Vypadá to, že pokud bude dál pokračovat v angličtině, tak budou asi bohužel vznikat jen další a další nedorozumění Setwale_Charm se, jak sama napsala, učí česky i slovensky, takže by s tím neměl být problém...

 

[texpert]

Otázka zní, zda k tomu máme důvod

(anebo to raději máme dělat s nějakým záměrem..)

 

[werrr]

I have the same problem to understand the example with “room for improvement”, but I think I found better example. I have no problem to understand the “room” as used in “room for doubts” as “důvod/dôvod”.